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From: Sandro Binetti <sandrobinetti@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Bit manipulation
Date: 2000/11/09
Date: 2000-11-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8udr5g$d6t$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dale-E44FBB.07363509112000@news-server

In article <dale-E44FBB.07363509112000@news-server>,
  Dale Stanbrough <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> wrote:
>
> The answer to the first argument is that you use C to call Unix
routines
> because either

[ ... snip ...]

OK! You're quite right! This first case is meaningless.

>
> The second argument, that you -have- to use low level manipulation
> in C, is not supported by any examples.

There are, IMHO, two different languages:
1) the language used by hardware engineers
2) the (O.O.) programming languages used by the software developpers
that should use the hardware devices sub 1)

The language sub 1) is, quite often, bit-manipulation oriented (mask
the 4 MSB to obtain XXX, shift twice leftmost in the register YYY to
set the device status in ZZZ mode, and so on ...)

The language sub 2), say ADA, has to make an abstraction of these
hardware specifications, or, simply, use them?

Is it correct, in a teamwork made of a lot of engineers and programmers
that exchange documentation each other, arbitrarily "upset" a bit-
oriented specification, given as a starting point for a subsequent
software developement, in order to "match" ADA high-level point of view?

Of course, a correctly analized problem has to be faced in a "high-
level" way, this is the case of certain kind of systems developped
inside the O.O. paradigm constraints. But, how to face a low-level
explained problem? Using a low-level language?
--
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-07  0:00 Bit manipulation Sandro Binetti
2000-11-07  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-07  0:00   ` John English
2000-11-08  0:00   ` gdemont
2000-11-08  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-08  0:00       ` Sandro Binetti
2000-11-08  0:00         ` gdemont
2000-11-09  4:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-09  0:00               ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-08  0:00         ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-08  0:00         ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-11-09  0:00           ` Sandro Binetti [this message]
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  0:00             ` gdemont
2000-11-10  0:00             ` Scott Ingram
2000-11-09  3:59         ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  4:52         ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-08  0:00       ` gdemont
2000-11-08  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-09  4:50           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  0:00             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-09  4:47         ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-09  0:00           ` gdemont
2000-11-11  0:00       ` Redryder
2000-11-11  0:00         ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-11  0:00           ` Redryder
2000-11-12  2:07             ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-12  5:56             ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-12  0:00                 ` tmoran
2000-11-13  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-14  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-11-13  0:54                   ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-12  6:40               ` tmoran
2000-11-13  0:00         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-13  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-13  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-13  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-13  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-13  0:00                   ` Pat Rogers
2000-11-13  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-11-13  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
2000-11-13  0:00                       ` F. Britt Snodgrass
2000-11-15  0:00                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-14  0:00                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-11-15  0:00                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-14  0:00                   ` Martin Dowie
2000-11-15  0:00                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-20  0:00                 ` Randy Brukardt
2000-11-21  0:00                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-21  0:00                     ` Stephen Leake
2000-11-22  0:00                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2000-11-08  7:18   ` Sandro Binetti
2000-11-07  0:00 ` gdemont
2000-11-08  7:22   ` Sandro Binetti
2000-11-10  7:24 ` Thank you all for your contribution ! Sandro Binetti
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-07 12:37 Bit manipulation Maurizio
2005-02-07 13:20 ` Martin Krischik
2005-02-07 15:32 ` Martin Dowie
2005-02-07 18:04   ` Martin Krischik
2005-02-08  0:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-02-08  3:11 ` Steve
2005-02-08 18:51   ` tmoran
1999-04-04  0:00 bit manipulation Jack Chow
1999-04-04  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-05  0:00 ` dennison
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