From: "Jean St-Pierre" <jstp.xremovethisx@cae.ca>
Subject: Re: Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:10:35 -0500
Date: 2000-10-31T21:09:32+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8tncec$h3q$1@dns3.cae.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cKo3$rZJqqvZ@eisner.decus.org
Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message
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> In article <8tmmat$e79$1@dns3.cae.ca>, "Jean St-Pierre"
<jstp.xremovethisx@cae.ca> writes:
> > This is a typical case of "being right, but being dead".
> >
> > You're right to say that an Ada programmer is forced to follow better
> > programming practices than your typical C programmer. However, I know at
> > least two companies that have rewritten the code of their software tools
> > from Ada to C++ mostly because they were not able to maintain a stable
team
> > of Ada programmers at a reasonable cost (to be fair, there were also
some
> > portability and compiler issues). Those Ada programmers were good, but
> > certainly not easy to find.
>
> So they hired guaranteed long-term C++ programmers who were incapable
> of learning Ada ?
No, the turnover rate was not lower with the C++ programmers but it did not
jeopardize the tool development and maintenance, which was the case with the
Ada version. It was simply a logistical and financial decision (availability
of programmers, cost of training, cost of maintaining multi-platform port,
cost of compilers and cross-compilers, etc). The cost of training was due to
the fact that it was very difficult to find Ada-proficient people at the
time, so Ada training had to be paid for.
I'm not saying it was a technically good decision (I guess we will see in
the long term), but it was almost unavoidable, considering the
circumstances.
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-30 16:04 Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:03 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-30 18:25 ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-30 20:41 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:30 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-30 21:36 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-30 22:01 ` James Rogers
2000-11-01 14:38 ` John Kern
2000-11-01 16:16 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-30 22:17 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-31 4:10 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-31 14:52 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-31 16:50 ` mjsilva
2000-10-31 17:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-31 17:39 ` mjsilva
2000-11-01 2:39 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-01 3:19 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-01 19:27 ` Tucker Taft
2000-11-01 20:04 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 0:37 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02 3:16 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 3:48 ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-02 12:38 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 13:33 ` Gautier
2000-11-03 5:30 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ada vs. C++ in defense projects Michael P. Card
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Jeff Stimson
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Love
2000-11-04 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-05 0:57 ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-31 8:06 ` Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Pascal Obry
2000-10-31 14:53 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 15:17 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-31 21:10 ` Jean St-Pierre [this message]
2000-10-31 21:17 ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-31 21:13 ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-04 3:08 ` DuckE
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Frode Tennebø
2000-11-07 0:17 ` mark
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-18 0:00 ` John Magness
2000-11-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-06 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-04 0:00 ` Lao Xiao Hai
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