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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Three simple questions
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:56:29 GMT
Date: 2000-10-28T10:56:29+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8tebct$e4l$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8sseq9$a2g1@news.cis.okstate.edu

In article <8sseq9$a2g1@news.cis.okstate.edu>,
  dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org wrote:
> >It may be helpful to remember that the Ada RM has NOTHING to
> >say about how programs are represented. There is no necessary
>
> Then what does section 2.1 of the RM mean?


It is a VERY common misconception that 2.1 dictates
representation and suggests that the representaiton has
something to do with Standard.Character, but this is
just a "common sense" guess. This section merely says
that the compiler must be able to represent a certain
set of characters in the source, it has nothing whatsoever
to say about what representations are used.

For example, it would be quite fine to require keywords to
be written in bold in an environment where this made some
kind of sense (e.g. old style paper tape codes where Algol
keywords were typically marked as bold to distinguish them
from identifiers :-)

Whether it is a good idea or not depends on the environment.
I can certainly see an EBCDIC compiler using EBCDIC for source
representation even if type Standard.Character has to be ASCII,
but for most compilers in a typical environment, it makes sense
to choose a representation identical to Standard.Character.

It may well be the case in fact that you can use Text_IO to
read a source file, and get what you expect, but section 2.1
of the RM definitely does NOT guarantee this. Indeed it is
very clearly spelled out:

4   The character repertoire for the text of an Ada program
consists of the collection of characters called the Basic
Multilingual Plane (BMP) of the ISO 10646 Universal
Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set, plus a set of format_
effectors and, in comments only, a set of
other_control_functions; the coded representation for these
characters is implementation defined (it need not be
a representation defined within ISO-10646-1).




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-10-28 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-09  0:00 Three simple questions Frank Christiny
2000-10-09  0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-10-09  0:00   ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00     ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-11  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  0:00                   ` The AI process (was: Three simple questions) Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-10-12  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-16  0:00                   ` Three simple questions Robert A Duff
2000-10-11  0:11       ` wv12
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  3:25           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00             ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-10-23  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-28 11:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:56                           ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2000-10-28 10:57                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-10-16  3:10               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00             ` James Hassett
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-11  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  0:00         ` David Gillon
2000-10-11  2:12         ` DuckE
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Case for case-sensitivity (Was: Three simple questions) Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-10-12  0:00           ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-10  0:00         ` tmoran
2000-10-10  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-10  0:00           ` John Magness
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-12  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  0:00             ` nickerson
2000-10-15  1:48               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-10-11  0:00         ` dmitry6243
2000-10-11  4:39         ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-10  0:47   ` Three simple questions Larry Elmore
2000-10-10  1:16     ` Ed Falis
2000-10-11  3:47       ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-13  0:00         ` Philippe Torres
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-10-10  0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  3:59   ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-10  0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  1:05   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  3:28         ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
     [not found]         ` <39EAEEEA.4F58C47C@cepsz.unizar.es>
2000-10-16  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-16  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:43                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-03  7:24                   ` E. E. Cummings (was Re: Three simple questions) Robert I. Eachus
2000-10-17  0:00               ` Three simple questions Keith Thompson
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:37       ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-16  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ronald Cole
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Larry Hazel
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