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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Ada and QNX
Date: 2000/10/18
Date: 2000-10-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8skta0$bou$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1FwFbWdX$ENE@eisner.decus.org

In article <1FwFbWdX$ENE@eisner.decus.org>,
  Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:
> In article <8sg6g2$eur$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar
<robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:
>
>
> Obviously you and I differ regarding how well they do at
> filling the existing channels and how more channels might
> affect that but continuing that line would be quite off topic.

True, but since you continued it, I will too :-) Right now
I get 1.25 HDTV 1050i channels, I would definitely prefer
more 480p channels, it will be a while before HDTV is subject
to channel bloat :-)
>
> > Why is this relevant to comp.lang.ada? Well a lot of our
> > discussion and support of Ada is based on alledged technical
> > superiority, I say alledged because it is not so easy to
prove
> > superiority in this field. What we need to be sure of is
that
> > the factors that we stress are indeed those that are
important
> > and real.
>
> A good point, rarely considered here.  It needs a buzz-word

Suggestions welcome!

>
> > I recently saw someone say in an influential list on Ada
that
> > they thought that the fact that Ada had a better defined
> > standard was a crucial element to Ada's success. My own
feeling
> > is that even if this were true (it is not!) then it would
not
> > be terribly important, and if we concentrated on that aspect
> > to the exclusion of others, we would definitely be making
the
> > beta mistake, and even if we DID achieve a better defined
> > standard, it is not what would impress the real world.
>
> I would say that Ada has a more widely accepted standard than
> many of the alternatives.  The absolute number of Pascal
compilers
> that attempt to implement the full Extended Pascal standard
seems
> to be about 2.  Certainly the percentage is frightening. I
tried
> some conversion software to regularly transform Pascal code
from
> one dialect to another, and it was a burdensome experience.
>
> > What arguments would impress management. Well try this on
> > for size "Ada will help you achieve level 3 CMM more rapidly
> > and realiably". I suspect this is definitely true, and I
could
> > (and have) written papers to support this, but I would be
> > interested in other people's viewpoints. There's a tecnical
> > advantage that definitely WOULD play in some circles.
>
> But in other circles the only possible technical advantage
that
> could play is "time to market".  I believe for the slight
change
> of "time to market with a defect rate less than X" could be
won
> by Ada for suitably small X.  Not all circles will care, but
some
> will care who do not care about CMM

Absolutely! I was not suggesting that this be the ONLY or even
MAIN reason for pushing Ada, just one more interesting one that
will be relevant for certainly circles




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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-09-29  0:00 Ada and QNX Michal Morawski
2000-09-29  0:00 ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-29  0:00   ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-29  0:00     ` Jeff Creem
2000-09-30  0:00       ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-03  0:00     ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-09-30  0:00 ` James Boucher
2000-09-30  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-09-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-14  0:00     ` ahummmm
2000-10-15  0:00       ` James Boucher
2000-10-15  0:00         ` Steve Bellenot
2000-10-15  0:00       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16  5:27         ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-17  0:28                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Frode Tennebø
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Steffen Huber
2000-11-03  5:11                   ` CMM in outside software (was Re: Ada and QNX) Robert I. Eachus
2000-11-03  5:34                     ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Ada and QNX Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Gautier
2000-10-16  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  5:38                 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` ADA vs. SmallEiffel Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Ada and QNX mjsilva
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-16  0:00               ` mjsilva
2000-11-03  0:00                 ` mark_lundquist
2000-10-17  0:39               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  5:00                 ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` aek
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Gautier
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-17  0:00                         ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                               ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-18  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-18  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-18  0:00                               ` Igor Kovalenko
2000-10-17  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Armin Steinhoff
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Gautier
2000-10-16  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-17  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Buyer's Remorse? (was Re: Ada and QNX) mjsilva
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Ada and QNX mjsilva
2000-09-30  0:00   ` gdemont
2000-09-30  2:35 ` DuckE
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