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From: Mike Coffin <mhc@Eng.Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake)
Date: 1997/08/28
Date: 1997-08-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8p6k9h610pc.fsf@Eng.Sun.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34048653.63DECDAD@eiffel.com

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Bertrand Meyer <Bertrand.Meyer@eiffel.com> writes:

> James P. White wrote:
>  
> [Quoting me]
> > > It's really fascinating to read this again a month later,
> > > with the recent announcements -- widely reported by the
> > > press -- that Corel is dropping its Java strategy altogether.
> > >
> > > So much for the showcase success of the century...
> 
> [James P. White]
> 
> > As I am sure you will hear, those reports were entirely inaccurate.
> 
> The Toronto Globe and Mail wrote that Corel was "ditching"
> Java efforts. This has been criticized on some newsgroups
> as being exaggerated. But here is the report from Computer
> Reseller News in Techwire...

Rather than rely on sources that are notoriously unreliable when it
comes to technical information, how about just going to the source?
E.g., http://www.corel.com/javastrat/index.htm.  Here is the
front matter:

    "This document outlines Corel's Business Applications strategy and
    the role that Java plays. The future focus of Corel's Business
    Applications targets three primary areas.

    "The first area of concentration for Corel is to add Java
    technology (code named Remagen) to its existing suite that will
    allow Corel� WordPerfect� Suite 8, or other software such as
    Microsoft� Office, to be run on a server and accessed via a thin
    Java client on any Java virtual machine. Targeted to the corporate
    community, this product will allow for lower maintenance costs and
    cross-platform access to the Corel family of products and any
    other Windows NT�-based application.

    "The second step is to produce a new line of products that are
    Internet-centric and take advantage of Corel's Java
    expertise. This new product line will combine concepts found in
    our present CorelCENTRAL product that ships in Corel�
    WordPerfect� Suite 8, evolving technology from our Corel� Office
    for Java, and other technology and concepts that are presently
    being worked on at Corel. This development will create a new
    generation of products for information management and knowledge
    handling inside and outside the organization.

    "The third area of concentration for Corel is to continue producing
    and evolving its present suite of Windows� products.  Corel's
    customers can expect to see future versions of Corel WordPerfect
    Suite as the company moves these business applications forward."

None of this sounds much like Corel is "ditching" Java.  I think that,
as usual, the press is engaging in pack journalism.  Someone early on
interpreted what Corel did as a retreat from Java, so journalists from
all over raced off to write that story.  The fact that it wasn't
actually true doesn't matter much: it's a *big* story, and lot's of
people *want* it to be true.  So we get a sort of Gresham's law of
journalism where bad journalism drives out good.

-mike




  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-08-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-08-25  0:00 The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-26  0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-26  0:00 ` BruceMount
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Brett J. Stonier
     [not found]     ` <JSA.97Aug28182029@alexandria.organon.com>
     [not found]       ` <3406C150.3EE5EE0E@stratasys.com>
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29  0:00             ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-02  0:00             ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15  0:00       ` Tim Ottinger
     [not found]   ` <5u0nil$atg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
     [not found]       ` <5u3o1n$hu5@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28  0:00         ` Nick Leaton
1997-09-15  0:00       ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16  0:00         ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28  0:00     ` not
1997-08-27  0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-27  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <34047A7D.62319AC4@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27  0:00     ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-27  0:00       ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-08-28  0:00         ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-28  0:00       ` Mike Coffin [this message]
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00           ` James P. White
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-28  0:00       ` James P. White
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Dennis Weldy
1997-09-03  0:00         ` Charles Ditzel
     [not found]   ` <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil>
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Lee Webber
1997-08-28  0:00     ` James P. White
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-28  0:00       ` James P. White
     [not found]         ` <EFnKuI.4rI@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Memory management techniques -- was Re: The great Java showcase Jon S Anthony
1997-08-30  0:00         ` The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Bert Bril
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Lee Webber
     [not found]       ` <EFn8CI.D9p@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Arthur Nelson
1997-08-29  0:00           ` Patrick Doyle
1997-09-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
     [not found]           ` <EFonoz.AFC@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29  0:00             ` Samuel Mize
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00           ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-31  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-06  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00         ` Peter Hermann
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Mike Charlton
     [not found]         ` <N.19970829.uput@sisyphus.demon.co.uk>
1997-09-02  0:00           ` Mike Charlton
1997-09-03  0:00             ` Dave Sparks
     [not found] ` <JSA.97Aug26153546@alexandria.organon.com>
     [not found]   ` <34034658.7DE14518@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found] ` <3402FD4D.C196785B@brightwood.com>
1997-08-27  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Brett J. Stonier
     [not found] <5tvvsj$lh2$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-08-27  0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-27  0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-27  0:00   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28  0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00     ` James P. White
1997-08-29  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-29  0:00     ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29  0:00     ` Dennis Weldy
     [not found]     ` <5u6ovi$5kb$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-09-01  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-08-29  0:00 Ell
1997-08-29  0:00 Ell
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29  0:00   ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30  0:00   ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-30  0:00     ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-01  0:00   ` Paul Johnson
1997-09-01  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Martin Tom Brown
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-09-03  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1997-09-05  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02  0:00       ` Jeff Kotula
1997-09-08  0:00       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-13  0:00         ` Mark S. Hathaway
1997-09-16  0:00           ` Des  Kenny
1997-10-28  0:00           ` John English
1997-09-16  0:00         ` Des  Kenny
1997-09-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05  0:00     ` Darren New
1997-09-02  0:00   ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-05  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15  0:00   ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-18  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30  0:00 BruceMount
1997-09-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
     [not found] <97090916235363@psavax.pwfl.com>
1997-09-11  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15  0:00 Ell
1997-09-16  0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Doc
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
1997-09-16  0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Robert B. Love 
1997-09-17  0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
1997-09-17  0:00 Ell
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