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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:26:39 +0100
Date: 2015-10-29T19:26:39+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8oa3b2zp0rcj$.iv7bvnb8mgiz$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e86561f5-5c5c-4da0-9492-44039d78e7c2@googlegroups.com

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT), AdaMagica wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2015 14:37:47 UTC+1 schrieb Dmitry A. Kazakov:
>> Actually there are people in c.l.a. against excessive commenting.
> 
> What is *excessive* commenting?
> There is no self-documenting code, nowhere.

What about this:

   if X > 0 then -- When X is positive
      ...
   else -- When X is zero or negative
      ...
   end if;

>> So, according to you
>> 
>>    X : Integer;  -- Undocumented
>>    Y : Natural; -- Documented
>> 
>> Don't you find it a bit silly? There is no difference between both.
> 
> No difference?
> 
> No, I don't find this silly. Both document (which word would you use?) a choice, in a way.

So, what does not document, then?

> Integer: I need positive and negative numbers; I don't care about the range.
> Natural: Negative numbers are not allowed.
> 
> type T is range -42 .. +42;  -- no difference to Integer according to you?

Regarding documentation? None. Neither document anything. They declare
types and objects of certain properties, that is.

A documentation would refer to the problem space and point out other things
that cannot be expressed in the language.

My point was that comparing to C's rough equivalent

   typedef T int;

in Ada less documentation would be required, because the language can
express more, in particular, the values range, the behavior when the range
is violated etc.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-29 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-26 10:00 function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io comicfanzine
2015-10-26 11:27 ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 13:25   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 18:01     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 19:03       ` AdaMagica
2015-10-27 11:30         ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 18:02     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 13:28   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 15:07     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-26 16:37     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-26 20:46     ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-27  8:42   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 11:34     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-28 13:32       ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27  8:51   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 17:15     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 22:48 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27  8:30   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 13:30     ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27 14:00       ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:43         ` G.B.
2015-10-27 20:04           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 11:06             ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-28 17:58               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-10-28 18:20               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:36                 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 21:02                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-29 11:25                     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 13:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-29 17:57                         ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:12                           ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-10-30  8:27                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-30  9:11                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 11:47                 ` G.B.
2015-10-29 13:01                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 14:00                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30  1:06                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30  8:39                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 14:32                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 19:07                             ` G.B.
2015-10-31  9:31                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-31 11:17                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30 14:40                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:07         ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 20:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 14:02     ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:10       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:41         ` G.B.
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