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From: "Ken Garlington" <Ken.Garlington@computer.org>
Subject: Re: Bad coding standards
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:27:16 GMT
Date: 2000-12-20T14:27:16+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8l306.14463$bw.1203427@news.flash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A40ACF8.9A35BAB8@acm.org

"Marin David Condic" <mcondic.nospam@acm.org> wrote in message
news:3A40ACF8.9A35BAB8@acm.org...
: Ken Garlington wrote:
:
: > My recommendation is to fire the auditors -- or at least, pull the
rotten
: > teeth. Worked for us.
:
: Well you don't always have a choice. Either the government is providing
them
: or maybe you hired a CMM audit firm, etc.

We have never had a CMM audit firm do an audit against our coding standards,
AFAIK, and I can't think of a KPA that would require that kind of detail.
You may want to consider another audit firm. If you have a customer that
requires it, that's a different matter -- although, if it's the U.S.
Government, and it's a new project, you might want to remind them of their
stated policy related to acquisition reform...

: The point is, you *said* you were
: going to do X and here is a spot where you *didn't* do X and why is that?
The
: easiest answer is to never *say* you will live up to some specific style
: guide.

Or to write a style guide saying "choose one of the following, using these
criteria as suggestions...", which is exactly what SPC did in some cases.

: That is why I would opt for a simpler style guide that is easier to live
up to
: and maybe use something more complex as just a "recommended reading" and
: "suggested practices" for developers.

Personally, I think that perverts the idea of the word "guide," but I
understand what you're saying.

: I don't know if anybody uses the SPC style guide as part of their standard
: work procedures. I think it is useful, but like I said - its just too much
: detail to want to use it as something you may get audited against.
:
: MDC
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-20 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-14  2:32 Bad coding standards Beard, Frank
2000-12-14 12:19 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-14 13:03   ` OT ae [was Re: Bad coding standards] Philip Anderson
2000-12-14 14:08     ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-14 14:19   ` American English (was: Bad coding standards) John English
2000-12-14 15:07     ` Graeme
2000-12-15 13:16       ` The Design Zone (was Re: American English) Marc A. Criley
2000-12-14 15:14     ` American English (was: Bad coding standards) Marin David Condic
2000-12-14 17:38     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-12-15 16:12       ` John English
2000-12-14 14:03 ` Bad coding standards Ken Garlington
2000-12-14 20:14   ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15  1:10     ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-18 16:09     ` Tucker Taft
2000-12-18 18:59       ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-18 22:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-12-19 15:51           ` Tucker Taft
2000-12-19 16:12             ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-19 16:01           ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-19 15:49         ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-19 16:36           ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-20  1:52             ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-20 12:58               ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-20 14:27                 ` Ken Garlington [this message]
2000-12-21 23:19                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-03 19:49                     ` Wes Groleau
2001-01-06 19:45                       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-12-20 11:56             ` Mario Amado Alves
2000-12-19 18:05           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-12-19 15:42       ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15  0:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-19 17:46 Beard, Frank
2000-12-15  5:00 Beard, Frank
2000-12-15 14:14 ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-16  1:28 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-18 20:00 ` Robert L. Spooner
2000-12-13 22:23 Beard, Frank
2000-12-13 23:56 ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-14  0:37   ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-14  4:08 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-14 14:06   ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-14 20:15     ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15  5:55 ` Keith 
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     [not found] ` <3A3445A8.8FC404D5@acm.org>
     [not found]   ` <912ut9$fga$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
2000-12-12  4:56     ` constant string array Jeff Carter
2000-12-12 20:57       ` Beard, Frank
2000-12-13  0:39         ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-13  2:02           ` Beard, Frank
2000-12-13  2:33             ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-13  2:55               ` Beard, Frank
2000-12-13  4:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-13 13:38                   ` Bad coding standards Marc A. Criley
2000-12-13 13:54                     ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-13 20:55                     ` David Emery
2000-12-14 13:07                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-14 14:21                         ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-15  0:08                           ` Wayne Magor
2000-12-15  1:40                             ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-15  3:18                         ` DuckE
2000-12-15  4:45                           ` Ed Falis
2000-12-15 15:44                           ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2000-12-15 16:34                             ` Ted Dennison
2000-12-16  6:08                               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2000-12-16  1:16                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-16  1:19                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-17  5:49                               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2000-12-17  8:24                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15 15:56                       ` Charles H. Sampson
2000-12-15 20:43                         ` Wayne Lydecker
2000-12-16  4:31                           ` Ken Garlington
2000-12-16 11:36                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-15 21:36                         ` tmoran
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