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From: wv12@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?
Date: 2000/07/18
Date: 2000-07-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8l2pqo$im7$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8l01s4$gnr$1@nnrp1.deja.com



In article <8l01s4$gnr$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  mjsilva@my-deja.com wrote:
> We're bidding on a custom industrial controller, and I've proposed to
> write the firmware in Ada.  The powers-that-be here are satisfied with
> that, but the customer is afraid nobody will be around to maintain it.
> They're happier with C or C++, alas.  Anybody have any good answers to
> their concern?

>
> I realize that implicit in their position is a belief that Ada offers
> no great tangible benefits to the project (even though the machinery
to
> be controlled is big, expensive and remotely-located),

C has been known to control big, expensive hardware. One such
example is the mutinode Deep Blue capable of searching a few million
nodes per second. Is the speed critical in this project? If so, I see
on reason to avoid Ada that checks every shift, rotate, add, multiply
in your software.

> course strongly disagree with.  As I see it, the arguments are (1) Ada
> will offer tangible benefits, both in reliability and in development
> time, and (2) a decent programmer can pick up similar languages fairly
> easily, especially for maintainence.  (Perhaps I should show them some
> Ada source...).  Ideas?
Maybe you could try to sell the safety critical side of Ada. But
software that does not get tested will crash, kill, dump core, etc...
(Ariane comes to mind)
>
> Mike
>
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> Before you buy.
>
You are not convincing me. Besides, the customer is always right.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-07-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-07-17  0:00 Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? mjsilva
2000-07-17  0:00 ` mjsilva
2000-07-17  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00           ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19  0:00             ` David Starner
2000-07-18  0:00         ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-19  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-20  0:00               ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-07-21  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00 ` wv12 [this message]
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-19  0:00     ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19  0:00       ` fdebruin
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-19  0:00       ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope?--Warning Significant Thread Drift Ahead Jeff Creem
2000-07-20  0:00         ` Kieran Mckey
2000-07-28  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? Scott Ingram`
2000-07-26  0:00     ` Dale Pontius
2000-07-26  0:00       ` Scott Ingram
2000-07-26  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-27  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-26  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
2000-07-19  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-19  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-07-18  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00       ` nabbasi
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Pascal Obry
2000-07-19  0:00           ` Florian Weimer
2000-07-28  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-28  0:00               ` Philip Anderson
2000-07-28  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31  0:00               ` Harry Erwin
2000-07-31  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-19  0:00         ` Rennie Allen
2000-07-19  0:00           ` nabbasi
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Scott Ingram`
2000-07-18  0:00   ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-07-18  0:00     ` Rennie Allen
2000-07-18  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-07-20  0:00         ` Joseph C Williams
2000-07-21  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-07-18  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-24  0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-07-25  0:00   ` mjsilva
2000-07-25  0:00     ` Gary Scott
2000-07-25  0:00     ` gdemont
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