From: "Joachim Durchholz" <joachim dot durchholz@halstenbach.com>
Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel
Date: 2000/07/13
Date: 2000-07-13T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8kl178$2n5kf$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39688CA2.31B2A7EF@acm.com
Marin D. Condic <mcondic-nospam@acm.com> wrote:
>
> It doesn't
> seem to me to be very useful to use Ariane 5 to hawk DbC/Eiffel when
> virtually any other methodology or technology could make the exact
> same claim.
I fully agree, and I don't agree with the Meyer/Jezequel article at all.
My personal claim is at a different angle: I think that DbC would have
saved the day (just like any other method) but without requiring extra
effort (unlike any of the methods that have been proposed in the report,
which all require some extra effort).
I say "no extra effort" because DbC contracts replace a lot of
documentation.
Regards,
Joachim
--
This is not an official statement from my employer or from NICE.
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-23 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-23 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-24 0:00 ` swhalen
2000-07-24 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-24 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-24 0:00 ` David Gillon
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz [this message]
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-12 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-14 0:00 ` carr_tom
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-13 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-13 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Bob Allen
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2000-07-11 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Peter Amey
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Peter Amey
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-11 0:00 ` Aspects (Re: Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel) tom
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Steve Merrick
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Frank Mitchell
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Jubilation
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Frank Mitchell
2000-07-15 0:00 ` Jubilation
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` tom
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Design by Contract (was " David Kristola
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Greg
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Matthew J Heaney
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Eirik Mangseth
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Greg
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Eirik Mangseth
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Matthew J Heaney
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-17 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-25 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-29 0:00 ` Writing better software was: Design by Contract (was Re: Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel) Kent Paul Dolan
2000-07-29 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-07-30 0:00 ` John Magness
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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