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From: Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:02:01 +0100
Date: 2003-03-26T14:02:01+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8j838v81tn0t2ft4locfphs6tg6t7e1lvb@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1048623730.801824@master.nyc.kbcfp.com

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:22:10 -0500, Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
wrote:

>Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> Array is an old well known concept, which requires no baroque kinks.
>
>There are many old and well-known concepts.
>Good programming languages allow you to build
>them yourself instead of providing special
>and unique support.

I know such a language, one of the Turing machine. (:-))

>> Right, but not in C++, which is unable to handle unconstrained objects on 
>> the stack.
>
>True enough for now. I suspect C++ will eventually adopt a
>form of C99's variable-length arrays, and then it will be
>possible. Where supported, something could probably be
>cobbled together with alloca.
>
>> But as you said it should not be slow.
>
>OO-style inheritance is the wrong concept for this.

Wrong for what? There is no other way to specify a type set other than
through closures of a subtyping relation. That's what inheritance is
about.

>> your nasty proxy class will show itself.
> > you will have to make it derived
>
>Nope. The function will be a generic, instantiated
>automatically on the proxy class.

Let you declare:

   void Foo (Element& X);

then A[i] have to be of Element type to allow substitutability:

   Foo (A [i]);

If A [i] is of some proxy class then you need ether to make the class
a subtype of Element, or to write a wrapper for Foo.

---
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-26 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-14 17:22 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Robert C. Leif
2003-03-14 17:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-03-14 18:16 ` chris.danx
2003-03-14 18:17 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-15 14:18   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-16  1:06     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 10:37       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-18 15:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-19 11:12           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-20  8:42             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-20 14:27               ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-21  8:44                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-21 17:16                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-22  9:05                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-22 14:11                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-22 23:12                         ` AG
2003-03-23  9:01                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-23  8:51                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24 16:52                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-24 18:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24 18:33                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-25  5:04                                 ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-25 19:55                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-25 20:22                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 13:02                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2003-03-26 15:06                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 16:21                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26 17:00                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 18:21                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-03-26 18:40                                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-22 10:01                   ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-23  8:41                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24  4:53                       ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-24 18:10                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-25  5:48                           ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-25 15:53                             ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-25 16:44                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-25 18:24                                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-25 20:06                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-27 19:45                                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-27 21:25                                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-28 13:34                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-04-01 14:38                                         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-04-02  7:37                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26  7:48                                 ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-26 13:35                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26  7:32                               ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-20 23:28               ` Matthew Heaney
2003-03-21  8:49                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-21 21:07                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-22  9:04                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-22 10:05                       ` AG
2003-03-22 15:25                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-22 19:27                           ` AG
2003-03-22 21:45                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-03-22 22:28                               ` AG
2003-03-23 23:47                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-28 16:34                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-18 15:58         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-19 11:05           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-23 11:31       ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:39         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-15 12:52 ` Florian Weimer
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