From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Desirability of C++
Date: 2000/05/01
Date: 2000-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
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In article <390DF15E.233B7D1E@online.no>,
"Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen" <tarjei@online.no> wrote:
> Ted Dennison wrote:
> > If I was looking to start one today, I think I'd go for a web
> > browser. I know there are tons of them, but there aren't that many
> > out there that are fully open source. Even fewer are cross-platform
> > and GPL. The only one I know of is Lynx.
>
> I think there is at least two web browsers for gnome. There is at
> least one on kde.
But those aren't cross-platform, right? There are a couple out there for
the Amiga too. That's not my point.
Suppose I want to use only a GPL or LGPL web browser for
philisophical/self-preservation reasons. Further suppose that I want one
that I can use on my Win2k system, my wife's Win98 system, and a SunOs,
HP/UX, or SGI box I use at work. It might even be nice if my parents'
iMac can run it. Is there anything out there that does that? I'd
honestly be interested in finding out about it. Netscape comes close,
but its license is right on the edge of OpenSource, making it really
just a big commercial product in OpenSource clothing. For instance it
tries to integrate functionality that has nothing to do with web
browsing (eg: email, newsgroups, chat, streaming news or whatever's
fashionable today) that should properly be handled by the separate
external application of my choice. Why does Mozilla/Netscape integrate
this? The same reason Microsoft integrated their web server into the OS:
business positioning. But why should *I* be inconvienced to help improve
AOL's business position?
> I think the web server bit would be more profitable nut to crack.
> Apache and perl is the main competitor. Zope and python may be coming
> attractions.
Apache is sort of the model I'm thinking of here. Apache is dominant as
*the* GPL solution. I use it at home on my Win2k box to proxy web
accesss to my home LAN, and am quite happy with it. I'd like to see a
project (done in Ada) that has a chance of acheiving that kind of
dominance. I don't think web servers are the place to look for that
because there already *is* one. But when I look for something similar in
a browser, its very tough to find.
But then, I'm probably not a typical Apache user, and you seem to know
way more about web servers than I do. So perhaps there is a niche there
that I'm blind to. (AWS seems like a credible start in that direction.)
As programmers we all have our own itches to scratch. At the moment *my*
biggest one happens to be web browser (as you can no doubt tell from the
diatribe above).
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2000-02-04 0:00 where can we get a job with ada HollymaN
2000-02-03 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` EKoerber
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-08 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-11 0:00 ` where can we ... [off topic] Nick Roberts
2000-02-07 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Ted Dennison
2000-02-12 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-28 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-03-04 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-05 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-05 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Vladimir Olensky
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-04-03 0:00 ` Andrew Thomas Wilson
2000-04-12 0:00 ` David Hoffman
2000-04-13 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ (was Re: Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada)) David Kristola
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-23 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Delphi Strings (was Re: Desirability of C++) Ray Blaak
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Strings TP/Ada (was Desirability of C++) Gautier
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Al Christians
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Application in Ada (was Desirability of C++) Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Michael P. Walsh
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Bill Greene
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-11 0:00 ` wv12
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-18 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-18 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-19 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-24 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Frank J. Lhota
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-08 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-04-29 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Chris Johnston
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
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2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-22 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Florian Weimer
2000-03-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
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