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From: "Tarjei T. Jensen" <tarjei.jensen@kvaerner.com>
Subject: Re: OS Bindings (was: Where is the elusive jump command?)
Date: 2000/04/13
Date: 2000-04-13T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d41rd$6622@ftp.kvaerner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8d2dfo$28u$1@nnrp1.deja.com


Robert Dewar wrote
>
>I disagree, unsigned in C *is* a modular type, you are saying
>that it is often used in ways that do not take advantage of
>the modular semantics, but for sure the modular type of Ada
>is the right mapping, since it has identical semantics to the
>C type. It would be quite wrong to map this into a non-modular
>type, since in the general case, the wrapping semantics of
>unsigned in C may be critical in a particular interface
>situation.


The modular semantics of a type like size_t in C is a side effect. It is wrong
to blindly translate any unsinged type to a modular type in Ada. The C
designers used the unsigned type because it was available and had the required
range and not because of its modular semantics.

Only a language lawyer would think that it would be sensible for size_t to be a
modular type in Ada. And the person whould have to disregard the context and
the intention of the designers.

I think you will find it difficult to find many places in the standard C
libraries where the modular semantics of any unsigned type is of importance or
where anything would fail if the type was not modular.

The situation is most likely to be quite the oposite; that errors or potential
errors will be found which could have cause programs to fail in mysterious
ways.


Greetings,







  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-21  0:00 Where is the elusive jump command? dis90072
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-28  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00         ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Gary Scott
2000-03-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Dan Nagle
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gary Scott
2000-03-31  0:00                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-31  0:00                             ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                           ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-12  0:00                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-13  0:00                               ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14  0:00                                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-14  0:00                                   ` BASIC->Ada, was " tmoran
2000-04-15  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` William B. Clodius
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-04  0:00                     ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-05  0:00                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-05  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-06  0:00                           ` OS Bindings (was: Where is the elusive jump command?) Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                             ` <eisner comp.lang.ada:53670>
2000-04-06  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-08  0:00                                   ` nickerson
2000-04-09  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07  0:00                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-09  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-10  0:00                                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                   ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                                 ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-13  0:00                                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-18  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen [this message]
2000-04-15  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Where is the elusive jump command? Richard D Riehle
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
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