From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Inferring array index type from array object
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:13:18 +0300
Date: 2010-06-23T15:13:18+03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88ec2vF3uqU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305oqccr1h2t$.x33x4oxwd84d$.dlg@40tude.net>
Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:30:23 -0700 (PDT), Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>
>> Consider this:
>>
>> S : String := "Hello";
>>
>> It is possible to iterate over all indices of this array with this
>> construct:
>>
>> for I in S'Range loop ...
>>
>> I would like to declare I as a free variable instead and I would
>> expect some symmetry in the language by doing this:
>>
>> I : S'Range := S'First;
>
> subtype Index_Span is Integer range S'Range;
> I : Index_Span := S'First;
>
>> I have two questions:
>>
>> 1. What is the standard justification for this assymetry?
>
> "We don't want to do anything [useful]." (:-))
>
>> What exactly
>> makes S'Range "work" in a for loop?
>
> It is hard wired, since ranges are not first class citizens.
>
>> 2. Is it possible to declare the index variable without hardcoding the
>> index type (that is, to infer it from the array object)?
>
> No, without improving the type system. E.g. introducing abstract index
> types, and abstract range types (or more general sets of index types), and
> abstract composite types like arrays.
I don't think such large language changes would be necessary. The
expression S'Range gives the compiler all the information about the type
and its constraints, so I see no reason why Ada could not be extended
simply to allow S'Range in a variable declaration, as in the above
quoted "I : S'Range". The declared variable "I" would have the same
(sub)type as the loop counter in "for I in S'Range loop ...".
On the other hand, I haven't really felt the need for this extension in
my programs. Whenever I declare an array type, either the index type has
no meaning for the application, and I use a subtype of Integer (eg. the
array just represents a sequence or set of objects), or I also define an
index type (eg. an object identifier) that is associated with the array
type. So I have not felt a need for using S'Range in a variabnle
declaration.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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2010-06-23 7:30 Inferring array index type from array object Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-23 8:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-23 9:03 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 12:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-23 12:52 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 19:09 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-24 7:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-23 14:38 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-23 15:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 17:17 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-24 6:16 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 12:13 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2010-06-23 14:27 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-06-23 20:24 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-23 16:33 ` Warren
2010-06-23 17:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-23 18:45 ` Warren
2010-06-23 20:39 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-28 13:44 ` Warren
2010-06-28 22:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-29 1:49 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 2:10 ` (see below)
2010-06-29 16:56 ` Warren
2010-06-29 17:50 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-29 19:31 ` Warren
2010-06-29 20:06 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-29 20:16 ` Warren
2010-06-29 20:22 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 20:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29 20:55 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:00 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:47 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-29 21:52 ` Damien Carbonne
2010-06-29 22:22 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-30 16:43 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:18 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-30 5:01 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-30 14:29 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 20:28 ` Damien Carbonne
2010-06-29 21:20 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-23 13:12 ` Gautier write-only
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