From: Adam Beneschan <adambeneschan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-10-28T17:34:38-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88a7f98c-55c2-4b5f-8a9d-c8b7512781c8@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2pakq$99g$1@dont-email.me>
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:59:32 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
> > (And if anyone believes #2 is impossible, because the C++ language somehow
> > emits unsafeness waves that travel through the air and into your monitor and
> > turn all your carefully-written safe code into unsafe code ... OK, I'm being
> > silly, but that just isn't correct. That's one of the reasons I reacted so
> > strongly to Jeff's earlier post, because it seemed to equate using an unsafe
> > language to writing unsafe code, which of course is wrong. You can write
> > safe code in any language. It may take a little more work in some languages;
> > but if you're aware of the need to write safe code, and are disciplined, it
> > can be done. And if you're not, Ada isn't going to help.)
>
> I don't think #2 is impossible, just unlikely, given the kind of people who like
> C++. You're more likely to be ostracized by your fellow coders for writing
> "inefficient code", labeled "not a team player" by manglement, and fired.
By "impossible" I was referring to the possibility of writing safe code in C++, not the possibility of convincing your fellow programmers to actually try to do so. My wording was unclear. But even so, let's say you're right about what would happen--are you still going to argue that taking the job in the first place would be a less ethical choice, as you seemed to be arguing earlier?
-- Adam
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2014-10-26 18:31 F-22 ADA Programming nathandsash
2014-10-26 19:02 ` Martyn Pike
2014-10-26 21:20 ` David Botton
2014-10-26 23:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-26 23:55 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 22:54 ` rriehle
2014-11-14 23:46 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-15 6:43 ` wilson
2014-11-15 17:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-15 21:28 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-16 9:57 ` Jean François Martinez
2014-11-16 22:26 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-17 0:33 ` Jean François Martinez
2014-10-27 0:13 ` Robert A Duff
2014-10-27 0:31 ` David Botton
2014-10-27 10:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-10-27 10:47 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-10-27 15:06 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-27 22:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-10-27 6:28 ` Pascal Obry
2014-10-27 15:04 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-27 15:17 ` Björn Lundin
2014-10-27 15:41 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-10-27 16:01 ` Robert A Duff
2014-10-27 20:16 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-28 8:45 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-10-28 11:58 ` Bill White
2014-10-28 14:56 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-28 19:36 ` Bill White
2014-10-28 18:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-28 18:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-28 19:14 ` David Botton
2014-10-28 21:06 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-28 21:32 ` Simon Clubley
2014-10-28 21:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-28 23:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-29 0:34 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2014-10-29 5:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-29 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-10-29 17:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-29 20:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-10-29 20:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-29 21:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-10-30 8:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-08 4:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-08 8:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-10-30 15:38 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-10-30 15:49 ` Alan Jump
2014-10-30 22:33 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-10-30 23:13 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-10-30 16:07 ` Bill White
2014-10-30 22:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-10-31 9:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-10-31 12:51 ` Brad Moore
2014-11-01 3:03 ` C versus Ada (once again :-)), was: " Simon Clubley
2014-11-01 13:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-03 1:54 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-03 9:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-03 12:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-04 2:01 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-03 14:26 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-01 13:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-03 2:01 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-03 9:10 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-03 12:09 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-03 12:40 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-03 21:58 ` Shark8
2014-11-03 22:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-04 13:42 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-04 15:01 ` G.B.
2014-11-04 15:50 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-31 10:11 ` Bill White
2014-10-31 12:52 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-02 15:40 ` Bill White
2014-11-02 22:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-11-02 22:52 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-03 1:36 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-03 19:04 ` Laurent
2014-10-31 13:24 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-08 4:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-08 23:43 ` Shark8
2014-11-09 8:39 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-09 20:53 ` Shark8
2014-10-28 19:18 ` Simon Clubley
2014-10-27 16:34 ` David Botton
2014-10-27 16:51 ` brbarkstrom
2014-10-27 18:03 ` G.B.
2014-10-27 22:06 ` Simon Wright
2014-10-28 9:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-10-27 20:06 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-10-27 20:21 ` David Botton
2014-10-28 11:34 ` tonyg
2014-10-27 17:01 ` Pascal Obry
2014-10-27 4:53 ` Jerry Petrey
2014-10-29 1:49 ` F-35 (was:F-22 ADA Programming) Robert Love
2014-10-30 9:01 ` Frédéric Praca
2014-10-30 9:07 ` Frédéric Praca
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