From: Jean-Marc Bourguet <bourguet@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT Support Costs
Date: 2000/02/11
Date: 2000-02-11T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <880fg1$o39$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 38A320AD.790389FE@gmx.de
In article <38A320AD.790389FE@gmx.de>,
Andreas Winckler <andreas.winckler@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Brian Rogoff wrote:
> > No language ever dies. There are even people today who use SNOBOL.
>
> Yes, old systems still need maintanence and Ada-Systems will need that
> quite long for sure. But all the young college students will jump on
> Java, C++ or whatsoever because this is where the new challenges are.
>
> > GNAT provides a zero cost hobbyist solution.
>
> Which is of course a great thing!
>
> > What is missing for small projects that you can't get from another
> > company or the open source world?
>
> Is GNAT without support a alternative for small (commercial!)
> projects?
I know of at least one million lines applications (I do not know if
you call this small or big) developped with gcc without support
(as a matter of fact, they kept gcc 2.7.x for a long time because of
the upgrading cost; by the way upgrading a compiler is not something
done lightly in all compagnies I've worked for). Why would it not be
possible for something written in Ada instead of a mix of C and C++?
> The number of companies who offer low cost Ada compilers (validated
> and
> supported!) for the Unix world is quite limited, actually there aren't
> any. The cheapest Ada compiler for Unix that I know is still at least
> 10
> times more expensive than a good C/C++ compiler. Why?
Market size can be a factor (development cost for a compiler is nearly
independant of the number of users); the computer vendor have an
interest to have a cheap C and C++ compilers available (and most
computer vendor are also compiler vendor so this increase pressure to
other vendor), validation also has a cost.
This is without speaking about the quality of support (from my
experience, I've better support from ACT as an unsupported user than
with some compiler vendors from which we have a support contract and not
the cheapest one...).
-- Jean-Marc
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-01-22 0:00 GNAT Support Costs Robert Kirkbride
2000-01-23 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
2000-01-23 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-01-23 0:00 ` DuckE
2000-01-24 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-01-23 0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-01-23 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-24 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-01-24 0:00 ` Jeff Creem
2000-01-25 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-01-24 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-24 0:00 ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-25 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
2000-01-28 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-28 0:00 ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-29 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-01-30 0:00 ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-31 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet [this message]
2000-02-10 0:00 ` DuckE
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Craig Spannring
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10 0:00 ` Rush Kester
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