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From: Chris Morgan <mihalis@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java)
Date: 1999/02/04
Date: 1999-02-04T13:32:22-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87yame2cb0.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36B9DA0A.40D0@gecm.com


This point is moot now (see Prof. Dewar's announcement) but I thought
I'd respond anyway.


John McCabe <john.mccabe@gecm.com> writes:

> You may notice that all the parts of your message I have left in here
> have referred to alternative version brached from the original e.g.:
> 
> EGCS - Not GCC
> GNAT For Linux - Not just GNAT
> XEmacs - Not Emacs
> Gnus - Not GNUS (Subtle this one!)
> XFree86 - Not ??
> ada-mode (from ACT) - ada-mode (from FSF)
> 
> So basically everything that people have branched off from an original
> package has been called something different *except* for ada-mode from
> ACT. This is the point I'm trying to make.

You are correct as far as you go, however the above are more like
marketing names, since the software is in each case a drop-in
replacement which in practice works the same. To use GNAT for linux I
still type gnatmake, to use Gnus I type M-x gnus and to run XFree86 I
type startx (or perhaps init 4). XFree86 in particular corresponds
exactly to X/Xt from the point of view of the user (X protocol, XLib,
Xt) it just has some nifty stuff in the X-server
department. Admittedly XEmacs is normally installed as xemacs. By this
reasoning if the file was called ACT-ada-mode-for-gnat.tar.gz but
became ada-mode.el it wouldn't be that different from the above but
you might be happier.

Still, if we're only talking about names it's not so important. What I
didn't like was the implication of wrongdoing or misrepresentation.

> 
> ACT's ada-mode, for GNAT users *may* be the best thing since sliced
> bread, but it's still called ada-mode, not gnat-mode. I (and Brian)
> obviously are really just suggesting that ada-mode should simply have
> had the gnat-specific enhancements added asa a separate package
> (gnat-mode) that required ada-mode. This is not a difficult thing to do,
> and now we've started to discuss things, it seems that we may all get
> what we want to some extent.

It looks like the Emacs+proprietary Ada compiler users may have to
pull in their horns here, see the announcement, but of course you can
get together and and make an Ada-Mode for ProprietaryAda team if you
want. If you do and if there is good work done I'm sure Emmanuel Briot
will be happy to collaborate with you.

An interesting discussion here anyway, I hadn't thought about all
these splits in this light before.

Cheers,

Chris
-- 
Chris Morgan <mihalis at ix.netcom.com                http://mihalis.net




  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-04  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-26  0:00 Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) bourguet
1999-01-26  0:00 ` dewar
1999-01-27  0:00   ` bourguet
1999-01-27  0:00     ` John McCabe
     [not found]   ` <36affcb4.14065782@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-27  0:00     ` Simon Wright
1999-01-29  0:00       ` John McCabe
1999-01-30  0:00         ` dewar
     [not found]           ` <36b7695a.2630918@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-02-02  0:00             ` Chris Morgan
1999-02-03  0:00               ` John McCabe
1999-02-03  0:00                 ` Chris Morgan
1999-02-04  0:00                   ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                     ` Chris Morgan [this message]
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                     ` EMACS Ada Mode Maintenance dewar
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` briot
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                               ` John McCabe
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` John McCabe
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` John McCabe
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` John McCabe
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-01-12  0:00 Ada vs C++ vs Java Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-14  0:00     ` John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00             ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Christopher Browne
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00                                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-22  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                         ` bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                                                   ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                       ` John McCabe
1999-01-30  0:00                                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-30  0:00                                                           ` John McCabe
1999-01-25  0:00                                                 ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                   ` <36afc1ec.20165240@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-27  0:00                                                       ` dennison
     [not found]                                                       ` <36b019e5.897220@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-28  0:00                                                         ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                           ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-30  0:00                                                               ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                           ` <36b170cd.1793333@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` John McCabe
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