From: Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Subject: Re: meaningfully/compellingly "advertising" Ada on StackOverflow
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 12:17:50 +0100
Date: 2018-05-18T12:17:50+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wow1fc0x.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87bmddshod.fsf@nightsong.com
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:
> Lucretia <laguest9000@googlemail.com> writes:
>> You don't get the point I made. That "benchmark" is to see how fast
>> different languages go using the same algorithm, without using any
>> safety features. If you hobble Ada by including them, you will make
>> people think it's really slow. It's not about the safety features. Do
>> you get it now?
>
> No. The Python and Haskell programs are slow because Python and Haskell
> also have safety features. The data signals the right conclusion: C is
> dangerous and fast, while Python and Haskell are safe and slow. A
> completely standard cost-benefit tradeoff. As a user I appreciate being
> presented with this info so I can make an informed choice.
Small point... There's no C version, only a C++ version. I just made a
C version and it seems to take about %85 the time of the C++ one.
Even more off-topic point: I think all the programs would be faster if
they did a conventional lookup, but they all use split and merge to
find matching values. Is there an algorithmic reason for this?
<snip>
> I like Dan'l Miller's suggestion of having two Ada benchmarks, giving
> both the safe and unsafe measurements. Then people can decide what's
> relevant to their own requirements.
Some of the other languages are represented with multiple versions,
presumably for similar reasons.
--
Ben.
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-16 14:27 meaningfully/compellingly “advertising” Ada on StackOverflow Dan'l Miller
2018-05-16 14:35 ` Lucretia
2018-05-16 15:06 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-16 22:48 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-05-17 2:46 ` John Perry
2018-05-17 2:49 ` John Perry
2018-05-17 21:25 ` meaningfully/compellingly "advertising" " Randy Brukardt
2018-05-17 23:27 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-18 1:22 ` Paul Rubin
2018-05-18 2:28 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-18 2:59 ` Lucretia
2018-05-18 2:57 ` Lucretia
2018-05-18 4:25 ` John Perry
2018-05-18 4:38 ` Paul Rubin
2018-05-18 15:39 ` John Perry
2018-05-18 15:48 ` John Perry
2018-05-18 20:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-05-18 20:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-05-18 4:37 ` Paul Rubin
2018-05-18 10:44 ` Lucretia
2018-05-20 7:54 ` Paul Rubin
2018-05-18 11:17 ` Ben Bacarisse [this message]
2018-05-18 20:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-05-18 4:22 ` John Perry
2018-05-18 20:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-05-18 11:10 ` Simon Wright
2018-05-18 15:43 ` meaningfully/compellingly “advertising” " John Perry
2018-05-18 16:40 ` Dan'l Miller
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