More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <mailman.325.1097792793.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, Jesse Ho
h lly <jesse@domain670.com> writes:
> --0-1804289383-1097781996=:54833
> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=iso-8859-1
> 
> Would you like to test and keep valuable products?

Is nobody from Ada France going to stop this spam ?

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Frank J. Lhota]

"Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message 
news:GLmyvlFKvmJu@eisner.encompasserve.org...
> In article <mailman.325.1097792793.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, 
> Jesse Ho
> h lly <jesse@domain670.com> writes:
>> --0-1804289383-1097781996=:54833
>> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Would you like to test and keep valuable products?
>
> Is nobody from Ada France going to stop this spam ?

Are we sure that Ada France can do anything about this spam?

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Björn Persson]

Frank J. Lhota wrote:

> "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message 
> news:GLmyvlFKvmJu@eisner.encompasserve.org...
> 
>>Is nobody from Ada France going to stop this spam ?
> 
> Are we sure that Ada France can do anything about this spam?

Spam through a mailing list is easily blocked by only allowing 
subscribers to send to it.

-- 
Björn Persson                              PGP key A88682FD
                    omb jor ers @sv ge.
                    r o.b n.p son eri nu

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <3AQbd.1$EL5.0@trndny09>, "Frank J. Lhota" <NOSPAM.Lhota.adarose@verizon.net> writes:
> 
> "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message 
> news:GLmyvlFKvmJu@eisner.encompasserve.org...
>> In article <mailman.325.1097792793.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, 
>> Jesse Ho
>> h lly <jesse@domain670.com> writes:
>>> --0-1804289383-1097781996=:54833
>>> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=iso-8859-1
>>>
>>> Would you like to test and keep valuable products?
>>
>> Is nobody from Ada France going to stop this spam ?
> 
> Are we sure that Ada France can do anything about this spam?

Yes, because they are the ones inserting mailing list information into
a Usenet newsgroup !

Inquiries to the ISP involved say that Ada France manages that interconnect !

If Ada France cannot clean up this problem, they should pull the plug.

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Georg Bauhaus]

Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@spamcop.net> wrote:
: In article <mailman.325.1097792793.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, Jesse Ho
: h lly <jesse@domain670.com> writes:
:> --0-1804289383-1097781996=:54833
:> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=iso-8859-1
:> 
:> Would you like to test and keep valuable products?
: 
: Is nobody from Ada France going to stop this spam ?

Maybe they are on a holyday?

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Samuel Tardieu]

>>>>> "Bj�rn" == Bj�rn Persson <spam-away@nowhere.nil> writes:

Bj�rn> Spam through a mailing list is easily blocked by only allowing
Bj�rn> subscribers to send to it.

Sure, but this is not as straightforward as it sounds. Let me explain.

We use the Mailman mailing-list manager, which is really great and
allows mail to news bidirectional gatewaying. However, there is a flaw
in Mailman privacy options in this case:

  - either we allow anyone to post to the list, in which case
    undetected spam[1] goes to the newsgroup as well

  - either we only allow subscribers to post to the list, in which
    case Mailman wants to moderate posts coming from the newsgroup too

Mailman is free software and can be patched; however, at the moment we
lack the time to fix that. Google searches brought nothing useful; I
will check with the Mailman maintainers whether a known solution
requiring no coding is available or not.

If we cannot find a solution in a reasonable time, we will suspend the
service as mail spam is a real annoyance, especially when gatewayed to
newsgroups. It would be a shame to be forced to do that as we have 58
people currently reading comp.lang.ada through this gateway.

  Sam

Notes: 
[1] We use SpamAssassin as a front-end to filter out most of the spam,
    believe it or not, what you see in this group is only the leftover
-- 
Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Samuel Tardieu]

>>>>> "Georg" == Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> writes:

Georg> Maybe they are on a holyday?

We have a lot of holidays in France, sure, but we are not *always* on
holidays :)

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Björn Lundin]

lördag 16 oktober 2004 13:39 skrev Samuel Tardieu:
> Mailman is free software and can be patched; however, at the moment we
> lack the time to fix that. Google searches brought nothing useful; I
> will check with the Mailman maintainers whether a known solution
> requiring no coding is available or not.
>
> If we cannot find a solution in a reasonable time, we will suspend the
> service as mail spam is a real annoyance, especially when gatewayed to
> newsgroups. It would be a shame to be forced to do that as we have 58
> people currently reading comp.lang.ada through this gateway.
>

Not beeing a mail expert, but would gray-listing help?

/Björn

Björn Lundin
bnl at tiscali se

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <87vfdahoyx.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net>, Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> writes:

> Mailman is free software and can be patched; however, at the moment we
> lack the time to fix that. Google searches brought nothing useful; I
> will check with the Mailman maintainers whether a known solution
> requiring no coding is available or not.

Ask the folks at SRI who do something similar for comp.os.vms but do
it correctly.

> [1] We use SpamAssassin as a front-end to filter out most of the spam,
>     believe it or not, what you see in this group is only the leftover

How about DNSbls ?

Re: More comp.lang.ada spam from Ada France

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <mailman.0.1097931174.10401.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, =?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F6rn_Lundin?= <bnl@tiscali.se> writes:
> l=F6rdag 16 oktober 2004 13:39 skrev Samuel Tardieu:
>> Mailman is free software and can be patched; however, at the moment we
>> lack the time to fix that. Google searches brought nothing useful; I
>> will check with the Mailman maintainers whether a known solution
>> requiring no coding is available or not.
>>
>> If we cannot find a solution in a reasonable time, we will suspend the
>> service as mail spam is a real annoyance, especially when gatewayed to
>> newsgroups. It would be a shame to be forced to do that as we have 58
>> people currently reading comp.lang.ada through this gateway.
>>
> 
> Not beeing a mail expert, but would gray-listing help?

Certainly gray-listing would help.  These days, spammers do not bother
with a workaround for gray-listing.