From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial project?
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:26:55 +0100
Date: 2011-03-12T21:26:55+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5ac84q8.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4d7a41b4$0$20391$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net
* Hyman Rosen:
> On 3/11/2011 3:37 AM, Stephen Leake wrote:
>> People cost at least $100k per year, so you have that
>> to spend on an Ada toolchain.
>>
>> GNATPRO is around $25k per year.
>>
>> What is the problem? I'm guessing you don't really believe the
>> productivity factor.
>
> Of course not. Who would? The very notion of "Buy our tool for
> $25K per year and you'll save twice as much." immediately triggers
> suspicion of a snow job by salesmen. You are asking a company to
> commit quite a bit of money on a tool that will need to be thrown
> away if things don't work out (which is not true of extra employees,
> who can be reassigned). Furthermore, it's a technology that's
> perceived as being long past its prime and never successful even in
> its heyday.
And you need to consider not just the developer output relative to C,
but also all the other languages out there and their promised
productivity gains. In only very few cases, it's an either-or between
C and Ada.
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2011-03-08 22:23 What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial project? Lucretia
2011-03-09 3:19 ` Hoàng Đình Long
2011-03-09 8:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-09 8:58 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-09 14:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-09 14:21 ` localhost
2011-03-09 15:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-09 15:17 ` localhost
2011-03-10 14:20 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-10 14:31 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 16:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-10 16:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-10 17:31 ` Dirk Craeynest
2011-03-09 20:43 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-09 22:04 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-10 0:38 ` Lucretia
2011-03-10 7:52 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-10 8:06 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 8:26 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-10 10:28 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 10:45 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-03-11 9:40 ` Hoàng Đình Long
2011-03-13 11:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 10:55 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-10 8:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-10 10:35 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 11:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-10 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-10 12:27 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 12:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-10 13:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-10 13:49 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-10 14:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-10 14:45 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-10 15:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-13 11:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 11:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-13 12:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 14:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-14 2:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 8:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-10 21:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-11 8:12 ` Manfred Kremer
2011-03-11 12:04 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-11 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-11 23:24 ` Dan
2011-03-10 13:33 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-10 17:08 ` Dirk Craeynest
2011-03-14 19:11 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-14 21:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-13 10:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 10:24 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 21:43 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-13 22:04 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-14 0:09 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-14 2:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 16:45 ` Pascal Obry
2011-03-14 18:29 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-14 18:37 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-14 19:43 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-14 2:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 10:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 21:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-13 10:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-13 11:42 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-13 12:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-12 19:55 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-25 12:36 ` Marco
2011-03-25 22:30 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-03-26 12:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-27 21:13 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-27 20:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-09 9:11 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-12 21:50 ` Lucretia
2011-03-09 10:39 ` localhost
2011-03-09 11:24 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-09 11:38 ` localhost
2011-03-09 14:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-10 10:21 ` Gerd
2011-03-10 11:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-10 11:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-11 8:37 ` Stephen Leake
2011-03-11 12:08 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-11 15:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-11 15:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-12 20:26 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2011-03-26 15:15 ` Gerd
2011-03-26 16:20 ` Pascal Obry
2011-03-09 11:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-09 11:42 ` localhost
2011-03-10 2:22 ` KK6GM
2011-03-11 14:01 ` Rego
2011-03-11 15:20 ` KK6GM
2011-03-11 16:42 ` Rego
2011-03-11 18:15 ` KK6GM
2011-03-11 20:09 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-03-11 16:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-14 12:18 ` jonathan
2011-03-14 14:12 ` KK6GM
2011-04-08 12:53 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2011-03-14 18:00 ` Niklas Holsti
2011-03-12 12:47 ` Stephen Leake
2011-03-12 18:15 ` KK6GM
2011-03-13 17:55 ` Lucretia
2011-03-14 3:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-15 0:40 ` Lucretia
2011-03-14 3:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 3:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 12:15 ` KK6GM
2011-03-14 13:41 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 14:05 ` KK6GM
2011-03-14 14:38 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-14 14:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-14 14:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-14 14:09 ` KK6GM
2011-03-14 14:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 17:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-14 17:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 20:04 ` Simon Clubley
2011-03-14 22:12 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-03-15 12:11 ` Simon Clubley
2011-03-15 20:25 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-03-15 14:55 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-15 20:28 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-03-15 4:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-14 14:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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