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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:05:17 +0300
Date: 2010-06-15T20:05:17+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pq6dF691U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25018ee3-be56-45e3-bc73-6a6a5f1a3c81@a29g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

zeta_no wrote:
> On Jun 14, 4:55 pm, Warren <ve3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> zeta_no expounded in news:c4259b0a-3d91-45e8-b88f-
>> d76c4c0e0...@z31g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Stephen Leake wrote:
>>>> Compared to what? What other open source language community is better
>>>> organized?
>>> Python appeared in 1991.  It has bindings and projects for almost
>>> everything.  It is used everywhere on open source projects.  How much (...)
> 
>>  Both have their uses, but their popularity
>> hardly makes a "superiority statement".  It only means that
>> they've been well accepted without implying much about their
>> application.  It's like saying MS Windows is the best design
>> based upon sales.
> 
> Never said Python is superior to Ada, the question was: What other
> open source language community is better organized?
> Python, managed to attract armies of dev., new and old.  What happened
> with Ada during those years?
> 
> ... they closed university class on Ada.  (Ecole Polytechnique de
> Montreal, in Canada: INF6300, dead)
> 
> I heard about one other school here in Canada that did the same...

Some of them return to Ada. On c.l.a. on or around Oct 12, 2008, John 
McCormick wrote (in part):

 > When Java first burst upon the educational scene, my Department voted
 > to replace our successful Ada based course with a Java one. [snip]
 > After 5 years, the faculty teaching the upper level courses staged
 > a revolt. Their students' ability to write code (mostly in C) for
 > their projects had fallen tremendously from the days when we used
 > Ada in the beginning courses.  We switched back to Ada!

But John also wrote that the school was next starting to experiment with 
Python. It would be interesting to hear how that turned out, compared to 
Ada and Java.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-15 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17  3:29 GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project zeta_no
2010-05-18  7:53 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 13:40   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:12       ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:28         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:09     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 12:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-18 14:12   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:36     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:16     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:22       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-20 10:39         ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-20 12:10           ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-24 17:04             ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 21:42               ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 22:45                 ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 17:26                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 19:25                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 19:54                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-13 20:35                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 21:22                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 22:35                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-14  8:03                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-14  8:47                               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-14  9:24                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14  9:33                                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-15  6:48                                   ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-14 10:39                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 12:19                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 13:06                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 14:29                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 15:59                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 16:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 20:34                                   ` Warren
2010-06-14  9:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29  2:51                         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-14  8:35                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-06 20:15                       ` jonathan
2010-07-06 12:29                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2010-07-06 12:57                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-06 13:36                         ` Improving the first contact with Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-25  2:26                 ` GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project Stephen Leake
2010-06-13 20:10                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-14 20:55                     ` Warren
2010-06-15 13:45                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-15 15:15                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-15 17:05                         ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2010-05-25  2:15               ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 22:38 ` Ludovic Brenta
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