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From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic.brenta@insalien.org>
Subject: Re: Is the Ada run-time required to detect out-of-memory conditions?
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:04:40 +0200
Date: 2004-05-22T00:03:34+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87n041l9mv.fsf@insalien.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2h7b84Fa2aefU1@uni-berlin.de

> Hi,
>
> I'm the original reporter of the bug. I forgot to mention that I
> limited the virtual memory of the process using 'ulimit -v 100000'
> in a bash.
>
> I'm very new to Ada, but I'm impressed of all the features. In
> parallel I'm developing a little library to make C programming
> easier. In this library I malloc'ed some "emergency memory" at the
> program start which is simply freed when the process gets out of
> memory. Then the error handler can at least raise an exception or
> print some warning.
>
> Perhaps the GNAT runtime library could use a similar approach.

I just closed your bug report after determining that the issue was not
in libgnat but in the kernel.  Basically, Linux sends SIGKILL to
programs that exhaust physical RAM; as you know, SIGKILL cannot be
caught so libgnat has no chance to raise an exception.  If the virtual
memory is exhausted before physical memory is, then libgnat does raise
Storage_Error.

I am quite confident that you can implement your "emergency memory"
scheme in Ada, but this will not do anything to prevent SIGKILL.  At
best, you can recover from a SIGSEGV.  This is true also of your C
library.

BTW, why not view the Ada compiler and library as "a library to make C
programming easier"? :)

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-21 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-20 22:54 Is the Ada run-time required to detect out-of-memory conditions? Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-21  0:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21  0:47 ` Stephen Leake
2004-05-21  0:54   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21  1:00     ` Stephen Leake
2004-05-21  3:29 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-05-21  8:04 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-05-21  9:34   ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-21 11:13 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2004-05-21 12:55   ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-21 16:00     ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-05-21 17:13       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-21 23:41         ` Wojtek Narczynski
2004-05-23  8:20       ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-21 19:58   ` Randy Brukardt
2004-05-21 16:56 ` Mark H Johnson
2004-05-21 17:19   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-21 21:39 ` user
2004-05-21 22:04   ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2004-05-21 22:11     ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-22 11:40       ` Simon Wright
2004-05-25 20:43     ` Is the Ada run-time required to detect out-of-memory Robert I. Eachus
2004-05-25 20:58       ` Duncan Sands
2004-05-25 21:19       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-25 21:31         ` Duncan Sands
2004-05-26  7:09       ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-26  7:38         ` Duncan Sands
2004-05-26  8:16           ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-26  8:34             ` Duncan Sands
2004-05-26 16:20               ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-22 13:40   ` Is the Ada run-time required to detect out-of-memory conditions? Duncan Sands
2004-05-22 14:09     ` Martin Krischik
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