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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: JAVA and ADA JGNAT
Date: 2000/02/06
Date: 2000-02-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jrv3$n7r$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: DAan4.552$pE4.8687@cmnws01.we.mediaone.net

In article <DAan4.552$pE4.8687@cmnws01.we.mediaone.net>,
  Pascal Martin <pascal.martin@iname.com.nospam> wrote:
> In article <87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar
<robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Well.. Transmeta is not in competition with RedHat:

Of course Transmeta is in competition with Redhat, sure they
do not currently compete head on, but they are both aiming
at the commercial Linux market. Right now, Redhat is not
focussed on the same area (Transmeta's aim is to produce
a mobile version of Linux, which is stripped down, and it
will not be "just a kernel". By the way, this version of
Linux is not yet available from TM, so saying that
Transmeta "releases a Linux Kernel" is wrong. If you
are talking about the general work TL does with the Linux
kernel, I would not regard that as a TM product at all
(it was not mentioned in the big press do last week for
example, except in passing). It is Mobile-Linux (tm, or
at least I think it is trademarked) that is the product.

Redhat is not currently in the mobile Linux market, but
that does not mean they are not both competitors.

Take Tivo as an example. Currently this consumer product
uses a version of Linux developed specifically for Tivo,
but I can see this kind of market as a target for both
Redhat Linux and Mobile-Linux.

> > If you really think that Redhat is doing no development,
then
> > it is simply because you are unaware of the major
development
>
> I am aware of it: I use Gnome :-), in which RedHat
participated a lot.

No, no, I am not talking about things like Gnome, which was
developed openly, I am talking about the internal development
projects which are well known in the valley (as I said, this
is not just a matter of secrets leaking out, though everyone
in the valley always knows what is going on except in very
unusual cases like Transmeta), but also because of the press
releases Redhat has made.

> Add to that the fact that many developments made in RedHat
> labs are  copyrighted by the Author (not RedHat) and follow
> this one when he leaves (Rasterman and Enlightment comes to
> mind).

The only special power held by the copyright holder for GPL'ed
software is the ability to subsequently release a version under
some other license (e.g. a fully proprietary product). So this
is not really an issue (I am not sure why you raised it).

> Considering Microsoft, software editors may have a bright
> future (a lot of Microsoft technologies have been developped
> outside of Microsoft..).

Well if you think that Microsoft is simply a software editor
and does no internal development, then your viewpoint is even
more remote from reality than I thought. I am not even sure
what you are referring to when you talk about Microsoft
technologies developed outside of Microsoft. Sure the original
version of DOS was purchased, but even todays DOS (let alone
todays Windows and NT) contains little of that original code.



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  reply	other threads:[~2000-02-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-18  0:00 JAVA and ADA JGNAT Mark Burge
2000-01-18  0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-19  0:00   ` Ed Falis
2000-01-19  0:00     ` David Starner
2000-01-19  0:00       ` Ed Falis
2000-01-25  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-25  0:00     ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-25  0:00       ` David Starner
2000-01-25  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Pascal Martin
2000-01-26  0:00                 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-26  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Pascal Obry
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-27  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-27  0:00                     ` Chris Morgan
2000-01-28  0:00                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-31  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-28  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-30  0:00                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-01-31  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Gautier
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-27  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Pascal F. Martin
2000-01-31  0:00             ` reason67
2000-01-31  0:00             ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00               ` Chris Morgan
2000-02-06  0:00               ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2000-02-06  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
2000-02-07  0:00                   ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-08  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11  0:00               ` Wes Groleau
2000-01-26  0:00         ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-26  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-05  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-19  0:00 ` Gautier
2000-01-19  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
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