From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:57:53 +0200
Date: 2011-05-26T17:57:53+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ipsx8nem.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0fa361b8-3e13-4656-9ca9-786dcc8aceef@h36g2000pro.googlegroups.com
Adam Beneschan writes on comp.lang.ada:
> On May 25, 9:36 am, Ludovic Brenta <ludo...@ludovic-brenta.org> wrote:
>> Yannick Duchêne wrote on comp.lang.ada:
>>
>>> Peter C. Chapin a écrit:
>>>> It also true that autoconf is a travesty... a throwback to a darker
>>>> age when the POSIX standard did not exist (or at least was not
>>>> widely implemented).
>>
>>> I do not know that much about Autoconf, so I can't really understand
>>> what that mean and implies (someone else here also say a bit the
>>> same as you too).
>>
>> Make was invented to overcome the deficiencies of C, notably the lack
>> of modular programming and dependency management.
>>
>> Automake was invented to overcome the deficiencies of make, notably
>> the poor maintainability of Makefiles.
>>
>> Configure was invented to overcome the deficiencies of early UNIX
>> systems, notably the lack of conformance to POSIX, and their impact
>> of the maintenance of Automake files.
>>
>> Autoconf was invented to overcome the deficiencies of Configure,
>> notably the sheer size and horror of the configure scripts, which
>> routinely consist of hundreds of thousands of lines of illegible
>> POSIX shell code.
>
> I was going to ask what was the invention to overcome the deficiencies
> of autoconf, but I think I figured it out ... rm -rf, right?
Opinions differ but I'd tend to side with you :)
--
Ludovic Brenta.
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2011-05-24 1:22 Why no socket package in the standard ? Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 1:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:11 ` tmoran
2011-05-24 17:23 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-24 19:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 15:12 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 18:43 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:24 ` georg bauhaus
2011-05-24 7:07 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-24 7:19 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 7:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 10:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 12:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 14:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 14:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 16:07 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 19:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 11:25 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-24 16:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:32 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:55 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 8:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 7:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 20:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 21:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 22:35 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:34 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 23:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 23:50 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 3:07 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 4:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 7:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 10:46 ` Manuel Collado
2011-05-25 10:44 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-25 15:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 16:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 16:46 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 12:10 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 12:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 14:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 15:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 18:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 20:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 21:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 7:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-27 13:12 ` Simon Wright
2011-05-27 15:43 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:31 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-05-26 19:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 19:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 19:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 2:02 ` anon
2011-05-27 11:44 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-26 14:50 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2011-05-27 11:46 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-27 12:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 12:49 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc (was: Why no socket package in the standard ?) Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 13:10 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 15:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 7:40 ` Why no socket package in the standard ? Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 10:48 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 7:49 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 2:47 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 9:12 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 21:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 23:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:36 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 7:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 21:22 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 9:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 11:54 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 22:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-24 19:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 22:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 22:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 1:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 12:38 ` AdaMagica
2011-05-24 15:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 18:29 ` anon
2011-05-24 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-02 2:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-02 13:55 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 20:38 ` anon
2011-06-02 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 21:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-04 21:35 ` anon
2011-06-05 8:39 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-07 1:50 ` anon
2011-06-02 21:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-05 11:06 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 13:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-05 14:51 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 15:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-07 2:49 ` Randy Brukardt
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