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From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <jacob@jacob-sparre.dk>
Subject: Re: Making sense of predicates
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:20:50 +0200
Date: 2013-10-22T09:20:50+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iowprctp.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: myuy19txq4vq.6xym4vrt6irl.dlg@40tude.net

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

> Considering this:
>
>    type T is tagged null record;
>    procedure P (X : T);
>
>    type S is new T with null record;
>    procedure Q (X : T);
>
>    subtype Subclass is T'Class with
>       Dynamic_Predicate => Subclass in S'Class;
>       -- Should have been Static_Predicate, but illegal
>
> Now:
>
>    X : Subclass := S'(null record);
> begin
>    X.P;
>    X.Q; -- Illegal
>
> Well, predicates were not supposed to work in an intelligent way, so
> why not to add a kind that will?

But they do.

* Predicates limit the set of possible values of a type.
* Extensions expand the set of possible values of a type.

You just have to use the right tool for the job.

> There are number of cases where this would be very useful. E.g. smart
> pointers:
>
>    type T1 is tagged ...;
>    type T1_Ptr is access all T1'Class;
>    type H1 is new Ada.Finalization.Controlled with record -- Handle type
>        Ptr : T1_Ptr;
>    end record;
>
>    type T2 is new T1 with ...;
>
> Presently it is impossible to derive H2 from H1 constrained to point
> to T2'Class. (Neither it were possible with implicit dereferencing)
>
> With the above, one would create a subtype of H1 constrained to
> T2'Class and then derive from it (better in one step, of course).

I think I understand what you want.  I suspect that it would be rather
hard to implement in a compiler.  Do you have an idea for how it could
be done?  (Just asking for fancy stuff without thinking if it is
possible is something we should leave to architects.)

Greetings,

Jacob
-- 
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
                                         -- Bertrand Russell


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 19:51 Making sense of predicates Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22  4:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-22  8:19   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 12:53     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-10-22 13:38       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 20:38         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-10-24  4:03     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-24  7:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22  7:14 ` Shark8
2013-10-22  7:35   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-10-22 17:26     ` Shark8
2013-10-23  7:56       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-10-24  3:58       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-22  8:11   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22  7:20 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen [this message]
2013-10-22  7:57   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 14:52     ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-22 16:30       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 17:15         ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-22 19:26           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 19:49             ` J-P. Rosen
2013-10-22 21:30             ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-23  9:25               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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