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From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: Generating PDFs with Ada
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:32:48 +0100
Date: 2011-01-11T23:32:48+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hbdfgjfz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.vo50fac2ule2fv@garhos

"Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) writes on comp.lang.ada:
> Le Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:14:12 +0100, Ludovic Brenta
> <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> a écrit:
>> No, I think we should tell them "tools should generate PDF or
>> OpenDocument, not a proprietary format"; this is true whatever language
>> the tools are written in.
> You could also be more pragmatic and note:
> 1) The amount of MS Windows and MS Applications users is great.
> 2) You are unlikely to convince them all.
> 3) If you convince some, the count of others will still be great.
>
> What about advocating while supporting the actual state of thing ? You
> can do “I am able in some limits to provide support for this and that,
> but be  warned that ... and what about .... and did you ever minded
> that ... ?”

That's exactly the attitude I've had with customers before.  So far I
have always been able to convince them not to use .doc, and therefore
I've never written any tool that generates .doc :)

> Last but not least, anything widely used is near to always end into a
> de-facto standard. There may be planned obsolescence (I hate it as
> much as you do), but older format are still there and being more
> documented over the time.

Whether a standard is "de facto" or "de jure" is irrelevant, the
relevant part is that a standard is not controlled by any single
(dominant) vendor.

> Look at MIDI specification as an example: its not open at all, there
> is no publicly accessible official documentation about it, but as it
> exist since long, it is documented in multiple place in a way which
> make it really usable.

That's because of multiple, independent implementations of the standard,
i.e. the situation is the opposite of that of .doc.

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-11 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-09  1:00 Generating PDFs with Ada R. Tyler Croy
2011-01-09  9:29 ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-10  2:29   ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-10  3:48     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-10 10:19       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-10 17:02         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-15 13:55       ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 14:51         ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-15 15:20           ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 17:55           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16  3:13             ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16  3:42               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-09  9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-09 11:28   ` leonid
2011-01-09 15:36 ` Gautier write-only
2011-01-10 18:54 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11  1:50   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-11  8:51   ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-11 15:37     ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11 18:41       ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 20:09         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 20:47         ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11 22:05           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 22:14           ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 22:22             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 22:32               ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2011-01-11 22:38             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12  1:37             ` Shark8
2011-01-12  9:42             ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-12 22:53             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13  8:29               ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 22:14           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12  9:36           ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-12 13:02             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12 14:16               ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-12  9:00     ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-01-12  9:44       ` sjw
2011-01-12 10:44         ` Manuel Collado
2011-01-12 13:12           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-12 10:04       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-12 21:25         ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-01-12 21:57           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-12 23:14       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13  8:33         ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-13  9:11           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-13 20:40           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13 22:34             ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-14  6:26               ` Thomas Løcke
2011-01-13 23:59             ` Edward Fish
2011-01-15 15:04         ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 17:45           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-15 23:58             ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-16  2:49             ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16  3:21               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 11:59             ` Simon Wright
2011-01-16 12:57               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 14:25                 ` (see below)
2011-01-16 16:43                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 20:48                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 15:33                 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-16 16:44                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 21:05                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 20:34               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16  1:27           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-16  2:49             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 12:27             ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16 19:22               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-12 21:06   ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-12 14:14 ` RasikaSrinivasan@gmail.com
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