From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: Generating PDFs with Ada
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:32:48 +0100
Date: 2011-01-11T23:32:48+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hbdfgjfz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.vo50fac2ule2fv@garhos
"Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) writes on comp.lang.ada:
> Le Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:14:12 +0100, Ludovic Brenta
> <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> a écrit:
>> No, I think we should tell them "tools should generate PDF or
>> OpenDocument, not a proprietary format"; this is true whatever language
>> the tools are written in.
> You could also be more pragmatic and note:
> 1) The amount of MS Windows and MS Applications users is great.
> 2) You are unlikely to convince them all.
> 3) If you convince some, the count of others will still be great.
>
> What about advocating while supporting the actual state of thing ? You
> can do “I am able in some limits to provide support for this and that,
> but be warned that ... and what about .... and did you ever minded
> that ... ?”
That's exactly the attitude I've had with customers before. So far I
have always been able to convince them not to use .doc, and therefore
I've never written any tool that generates .doc :)
> Last but not least, anything widely used is near to always end into a
> de-facto standard. There may be planned obsolescence (I hate it as
> much as you do), but older format are still there and being more
> documented over the time.
Whether a standard is "de facto" or "de jure" is irrelevant, the
relevant part is that a standard is not controlled by any single
(dominant) vendor.
> Look at MIDI specification as an example: its not open at all, there
> is no publicly accessible official documentation about it, but as it
> exist since long, it is documented in multiple place in a way which
> make it really usable.
That's because of multiple, independent implementations of the standard,
i.e. the situation is the opposite of that of .doc.
--
Ludovic Brenta.
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-09 1:00 Generating PDFs with Ada R. Tyler Croy
2011-01-09 9:29 ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-10 2:29 ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-10 3:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-10 10:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-10 17:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-15 13:55 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 14:51 ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-15 15:20 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 17:55 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 3:13 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16 3:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-09 9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-09 11:28 ` leonid
2011-01-09 15:36 ` Gautier write-only
2011-01-10 18:54 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11 1:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-11 8:51 ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-11 15:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11 18:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 20:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 20:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-11 22:05 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 22:14 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 22:22 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-11 22:32 ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2011-01-11 22:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12 1:37 ` Shark8
2011-01-12 9:42 ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-12 22:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13 8:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-11 22:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12 9:36 ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-12 13:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-12 14:16 ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-12 9:00 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-01-12 9:44 ` sjw
2011-01-12 10:44 ` Manuel Collado
2011-01-12 13:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-12 10:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-12 21:25 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-01-12 21:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-12 23:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13 8:33 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-01-13 9:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-13 20:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-13 22:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-14 6:26 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-01-13 23:59 ` Edward Fish
2011-01-15 15:04 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-15 17:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-15 23:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-16 2:49 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16 3:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 11:59 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-16 12:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 14:25 ` (see below)
2011-01-16 16:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 20:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 15:33 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-16 16:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-16 21:05 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 20:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 1:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-16 2:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-16 12:27 ` Elias Salomão Helou Neto
2011-01-16 19:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-12 21:06 ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-12 14:14 ` RasikaSrinivasan@gmail.com
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