Re: NOACE- End of the road for Ada?

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Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@acm.org> wrote in message news:<mailman.19.1110679175.23655.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>...

Denying reality is not a way to solve problems

> 
> AdaCore is also growing.
> 

So borland does, so sun does, so C++ does, so Java does, so others do.

The fact that AdaCore is growing may only mean that AdaCore is
collecting all potential Ada custumers that doesn't have any other
company. Perhaps AdaCore is growing not because a new Ada golden age,
but at expenses of companies that doesn't work with Ada anymore. The
market of Ada is so small the there is only room for a few companies.
When a company stops developing with Ada, the rest of companies, that
still use Ada, grow a little.

> > You shouldn't need to read this article to realice that Ada is almost
> > irrelevant, and that's the trend.
> 
> Hmm. Perhaps _you_ need to read some _other_ articles :).
> 
> > Why? How Ada has reach that point of irrelevance? what can be done to
> > change the trend?
> 
> Pay attention to what's really going on.

You live in bubble. You should read another articles too. Not only
those that tell that Ada is lingering, but those about Java, about
C++, about C, about PHP about Perl, about Ruby, about pyton...

This look like Esperanto. I played a little with Esperanto. Thanks to
internet Esperanto is growing. So what?. If you live inside esperanto
movement, the Esperanto has a lot of associations, literature etc. You
see esperanto everywhere, and you conclude that esperanto is quite
alive. If you look esperanto from outside, esperanto is irrelevant.

If you program most of time with Ada, work on a company/organization
that works with Ada, you read articles that support Ada, you go to
conferences about Ada, accept good news about Ada, but filter bad news
about Ada. You will conclude that Ada is quite alive.

If you look Ada from outside, you see that Ada is lingering, that it's
difficult to find a job for Ada, and if you find it, 99% will be to
support legacy systems, and probably until they move to another
language. You can find a thousand tools and libraries for any language
and choose. For Ada you must go to half a dozen sites/companies and
take what you find there.

NOACE movement is a good show of what's going on related to Ada. For
each new project in Ada with a big hype in Ada related conferences,
congresses, and websites, you can find 100 projects that are giving up
Ada silently. In demography, more deaths than births is called
negative growth.