From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:22:28 +0200
Date: 2002-04-12T17:22:29+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ads8sugb.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a96bou$fb5$02$1@news.t-online.com
Ingo Marks <adv@region-nord.de> writes:
> - Who continues Ada compiler support in the future? Now we have some kind
> companies who provide good Ada compilers (commercial and for free). But
> someday they could say: "There is no more demand for commercial Ada so we
> have decided to stop further Ada support."
If there is no commercial demand (and no demand in the Free Software
community either), then you are not using Ada. What's the problem?
> I remember earlier years when the press said that Unix would be on the way
> to die surely and it would merely be a matter of years when Unix will be
> replaced by Windows completely.
A large problem in the UNIX community was (and still is) vendor
fragmentation. There are at least three proprietary general-purpose
UNIX implementations which are used widely. We have seen a lot of
convergence, but there are still problems. I hope this is not the way
ahead of Ada!
> MS realized the success of Java
What "success of Java" are you talking about? Hardly anybody is using
Java in areas it was originally marketed for.
> Here I see a chance for Ada to become more popular.
Scripting languages like Perl and PHP encourage a development model
which is mostly incompatible with Ada. I don't think many scripting
language enthusiasts can be converted to Ada.
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2002-04-10 16:33 Development process in the Ada community Michael Erdmann
2002-04-10 23:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 4:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 7:34 ` Petter Fryklund
2002-04-11 16:39 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 8:37 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-11 13:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 12:33 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 12:56 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 23:59 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 17:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 10:41 ` Martin Dowie
2002-04-11 16:50 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 18:21 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 4:43 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 11:13 ` Claw thick bindings to sockets (was: Development process in the Ada..) Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 17:22 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 21:24 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 23:18 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 23:19 ` Development process in the Ada community tony
2002-04-12 23:52 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-15 14:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-11 20:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 12:38 ` Jim Rogers
2002-04-11 16:48 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 18:09 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-11 18:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 21:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 22:26 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 13:13 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-15 14:28 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 17:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 8:35 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-12 14:37 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 15:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-11 21:14 ` Rant! (was) " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-11 23:20 ` tony
2002-04-12 0:55 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 1:21 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-12 15:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-12 22:20 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 21:02 ` --off topic " tony
2002-04-12 23:52 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-14 10:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-14 22:17 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 14:57 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 23:12 ` tony
2002-04-12 10:10 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-12 11:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 23:18 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 17:22 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2002-04-12 17:38 ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-04-12 18:29 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-13 3:30 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 10:12 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-13 13:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 13:39 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-13 14:12 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-13 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 16:03 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-15 15:03 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 8:30 ` Frank
2002-04-21 11:35 ` Michal Nowak
2002-04-16 15:43 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-16 16:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 6:16 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-17 12:55 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 7:50 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-17 12:01 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-17 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 18:40 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 15:02 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 15:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 19:31 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-18 14:15 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:35 ` Paranoia about .NET (still): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 21:43 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 11:49 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 23:34 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-19 23:14 ` rc211v
2002-04-20 3:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-23 17:27 ` Wish List : Ada95 to FOX Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-04-23 19:24 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-26 22:06 ` rc211v
2002-04-24 0:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <3CC5997E.4 <3CC5F5B0.DBC6A6B8@boeing.com>
2002-04-24 8:47 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2002-04-24 15:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 1:41 ` Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Richard Riehle
2002-04-16 19:40 ` [OT] MS vs Linux vs who in the student heart? (still mostly): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 2:09 ` Adrian Hoe
2002-04-12 21:17 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-13 0:23 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 22:07 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 8:01 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 10:24 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 10:26 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 11:41 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 12:48 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 13:42 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 3:13 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 13:19 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-14 14:44 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-14 15:44 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 15:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-14 16:33 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 21:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-15 15:39 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 16:34 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 17:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 17:02 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 21:09 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 21:25 ` Darren New
2002-04-17 23:14 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 23:24 ` Darren New
2002-04-18 4:34 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-18 14:08 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:34 ` Al Reynolds
2002-04-18 19:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 20:03 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 20:45 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-18 4:42 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 13:16 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 13:54 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:25 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 19:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 21:41 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 17:12 ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-15 15:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-15 15:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 16:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 17:49 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-16 17:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 14:04 ` Bill Tate
2002-04-18 14:45 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 20:12 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 20:09 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 0:59 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 7:38 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 7:46 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 13:24 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 16:01 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 17:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 19:02 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 21:34 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-14 8:28 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 16:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 22:24 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-15 3:03 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 3:04 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-15 3:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-16 2:37 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-14 8:51 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-14 10:37 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 11:50 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 20:41 ` tmoran
2002-04-15 14:45 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 15:59 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-15 19:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-17 16:29 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 22:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-21 5:56 ` David Botton
2002-04-21 7:13 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 21:14 ` David Botton
2002-04-22 21:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 4:47 ` GPL and the big picture (was Re: Development process in the Ada community) David Botton
2002-04-23 5:11 ` David Botton
2002-04-24 19:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-21 11:02 ` Development process in the Ada community Adrian Hoe
2002-04-21 21:21 ` David Botton
2002-04-15 22:02 ` tmoran
2002-04-17 16:55 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 17:15 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-17 18:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 19:22 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-21 5:35 ` David Botton
2002-04-21 5:34 ` David Botton
2002-04-18 5:12 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-18 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 2:50 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-21 5:33 ` David Botton
2002-04-17 3:25 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 5:07 ` Open Source: in conflict with the development process in the Ada community? Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 10:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-17 13:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 14:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 16:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-22 13:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 23:48 ` How Open Source software developers pay the bills, from within a successful such operation (was): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-20 16:41 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-20 18:08 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-21 0:38 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 1:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 16:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 12:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-23 20:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 23:50 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-20 6:28 ` tmoran
2002-04-20 6:53 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-20 11:53 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-04-20 13:14 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-20 14:50 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-04-21 11:13 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-21 21:23 ` Darren New
2002-04-22 13:42 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 16:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 16:07 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 13:53 ` Development process in the Ada community Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 14:50 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-18 15:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 5:23 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 15:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 17:58 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:39 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-17 20:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 15:43 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 22:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-18 15:39 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 3:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-20 5:56 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-20 16:30 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-20 18:31 ` tmoran
2002-04-20 21:32 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 0:30 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 13:40 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 14:27 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 17:40 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 17:48 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 0:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 5:23 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 15:59 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 17:47 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 1:03 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 9:07 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-22 15:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 15:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-23 16:03 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:41 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 0:28 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-21 0:33 ` Jason King
2002-04-22 15:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 4:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 5:30 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-26 18:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-29 14:44 ` Shared generics Hyman Rosen
2002-04-29 19:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 13:28 ` Development process in the Ada community Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 21:16 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 17:19 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 18:09 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 8:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-16 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 17:46 ` tmoran
2002-04-17 3:34 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 12:11 ` John English
2002-04-15 16:29 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 11:28 ` Martin Dowie
2002-04-16 13:38 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 18:36 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:14 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 16:00 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 17:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-18 17:48 ` Grace and Maps (was Re: Development process in the Ada community) Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 13:29 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 14:23 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 13:42 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-20 19:54 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 13:21 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-22 13:40 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:49 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 1:33 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 5:49 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-21 8:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-21 18:49 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 20:17 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 0:36 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 5:20 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 13:34 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 16:16 ` Darren New
2002-04-22 22:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC48F34.5A474E0F@boeing.com>
2002-04-22 23:26 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 2:15 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-23 4:57 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 7:10 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-23 14:52 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:08 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 12:22 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 13:53 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 15:02 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 15:25 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 15:39 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 19:32 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 19:58 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 19:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-24 20:01 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 20:09 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 12:49 ` Alan Reynolds
2002-04-23 16:46 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 18:55 ` Alan Reynolds
2002-04-23 6:26 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-23 2:38 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 18:57 ` Anders Gidenstam
2002-04-23 2:32 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 23:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-24 15:01 ` Darren New
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC4E9DA.E02BE0DA@san.rr.com>
2002-04-23 5:21 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-23 7:37 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-23 22:33 ` David Bolen
2002-04-24 6:42 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
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2002-04-25 7:40 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2002-04-25 22:23 ` David Bolen
2002-04-24 17:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC6EA85.CA2735B2@boeing.com>
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2002-04-24 23:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
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2002-04-26 5:27 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 13:31 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 14:15 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-22 23:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 14:37 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-22 18:44 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-23 2:18 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 14:46 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 17:50 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-04-23 18:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-24 14:20 ` John English
2002-04-24 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 5:41 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-23 18:59 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:13 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 19:26 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-24 16:49 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-24 17:10 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-25 12:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-25 13:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-27 8:57 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-29 14:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-29 15:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-29 15:10 ` Darren New
2002-04-25 16:44 ` Darren New
2002-04-25 17:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 16:31 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-30 17:16 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-30 18:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 17:16 ` Darren New
2002-04-26 17:53 ` Marin David Condic
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2002-04-25 17:44 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-30 4:49 ` Simon Wright
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2002-05-02 15:52 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-01 22:17 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-24 17:25 ` Darren New
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2002-04-24 21:57 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-21 5:46 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-21 18:44 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 14:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-25 2:29 ` Brian Gaffney
2002-04-25 14:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 0:42 ` David Bolen
2002-04-22 2:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 22:58 ` David Bolen
2002-04-18 18:50 ` [OT] Focusing on tools you know in programming libraries. (was): Development process in the Ada community Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 18:57 ` Data!, was " tmoran
2002-04-18 20:51 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 21:28 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 22:10 ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-18 23:08 ` Darren New
2002-04-19 13:29 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 3:04 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 22:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-19 10:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-19 10:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-20 5:12 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-19 11:00 ` John English
2002-04-19 16:45 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-18 20:28 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 23:31 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-17 18:04 ` Outside view (still): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 19:10 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 22:15 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 23:20 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 1:19 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-18 4:53 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 5:40 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-19 13:22 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 8:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-04-18 2:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 5:03 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 12:50 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 14:34 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 13:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 4:21 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-18 4:59 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 14:44 ` new Ada language features needed? Stephen Leake
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2002-04-19 17:39 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-19 18:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 17:35 ` Michael Erdmann
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