Re: Weakness of Ada is expensive / security / etc. ? Anything else?

[Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>]

* Paul Rubin:

> Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:
>>> The other products do have good support, though I don't know how to
>>> compare it with Adacore support, which sounds very high end.
>>
>> Can you name a few examples?  I have no idea what kind of tools people
>> use in the embedded world, and what the support and licensing
>> agreements are like.
>
> http://www.forth.com/embedded/index.html

Haven't looked at these.

> http://mpeforth.com/xc7.htm

Support for that is surprisingly affordable, around $600 per year for
a cross-compiler:

<http://www.mpeforth.com/pricelist.htm>

That's surprisingly affordable for an embedded solution, but it is
Forth.  Depending on what the application does, royalties may apply,
though:

<http://www.mpeforth.com/vfxlicence.htm>

> http://www.keil.com/

Here's a leaked price list:

<http://www.tagor.rs/files/cenovnici/Keil_pricelist_USD_2012.pdf>

Based on that, it appears that licenses cost several thousand U.S.
dollars.  The product seems to come with support, though, but it's not
clear for which time frame.  If you need the yearly fee option for
continuous support, the pricing is roughly in AdaCore's ballpark.

> http://bytecraft.com/

These compilers are not *that* expensive if you need only specific
targets:

<http://www.mouser.com/catalog/645/usd/260.pdf>
<http://www.tec-i.com/ByteCraftLtdCompilers.htm>

There is no information about the support included.