From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Subject: Re: is ada dead?
Date: 09 Jul 2001 03:44:33 +0200
Date: 2001-07-09T03:44:33+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877kxianb2.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3b47806a_4@news3.prserv.net
"Andrzej Lewandowski" <lewandoREMOVE@attglobal.net> writes:
>> In universities (Malaysian, Ok?), programming languages are taught not
>> because of teching the students of programming concepts, but for the
>> sake of market requirement. That's the most pathetic and irresponsible
>> decision.
> This decision was not irresponsible and pathetic. There is a job
> market for Ada programmers, but very (VERY) small compared to say,
> C++, Java, VB or COBOL. Students invest quite substantial amount of
> money to get a degree, and yes, they expect that this investment
> will bring some return.
I would expect that anyone with a CS degree can learn programming in
any language in a few weeks. Learning programming languages is easy,
and absorbing the local conventions and rules of a large project is
probably much more time consuming.
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2001-07-05 21:56 is ada dead? tyler spivey
2001-07-05 23:11 ` James Rogers
2001-07-06 0:21 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-06 2:31 ` wzm
2001-07-06 7:47 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-06 12:12 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-06 21:33 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-06 14:04 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <3B45E0E9.E3E7BB55@nokia.com>
2001-07-06 16:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-06 18:28 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-06 19:12 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-07 1:57 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-06 21:36 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-07 10:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-07 18:44 ` James Rogers
2001-07-07 21:19 ` String support (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 3:15 ` is ada dead? Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-08 3:46 ` James Rogers
2001-07-08 5:29 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-09 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-08 11:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 14:57 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2001-07-08 13:34 ` Me
2001-07-07 18:33 ` James Rogers
2001-07-07 22:41 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-08 0:58 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 1:33 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-08 1:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-08 17:19 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-08 21:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 2:46 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-09 10:36 ` Mandating code quality (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-08 10:52 ` is ada dead? Michal Nowak
2001-07-08 22:38 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-09 1:20 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 14:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-09 15:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-09 20:27 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-07-09 21:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 16:49 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-10 23:59 ` Why " raj
2001-07-14 16:53 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-14 23:14 ` James Rogers
2001-07-15 22:57 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-16 14:00 ` Trains in the US (was: Why is ada dead?) Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 23:56 ` Why is ada dead? raj
2001-07-11 2:59 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 16:50 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-15 18:14 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-16 15:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-16 17:32 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-16 22:18 ` tmoran
2001-08-01 18:53 ` "first-mover (dis)advantage" (was Re: is ada dead?) Mark Lundquist
2001-08-02 15:44 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-21 16:30 ` is ada dead? Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-16 18:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-16 18:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-16 20:14 ` Gary Scott
2001-07-16 18:26 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-16 21:21 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-10 23:31 ` raj
2001-07-10 23:32 ` raj
2001-07-10 23:46 ` "garbage dumps are full of superior solutions" raj
2001-07-10 23:47 ` Managers believe that Ada programmers are hard to find raj
2001-07-11 9:38 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-11 12:39 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 17:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-11 19:05 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-07 22:37 ` is ada dead? Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-08 1:10 ` James Rogers
2001-07-08 1:47 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-08 9:01 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-08 10:52 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-08 22:40 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-07-09 1:48 ` James Rogers
2001-07-09 15:11 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-07-09 16:14 ` Al Christians
2001-07-09 19:35 ` Death by analogy Part 1 (was Re: is ada dead?) Michael P. Card
2001-07-09 19:52 ` Death by analogy Part 2 " Michael P. Card
2001-07-09 22:07 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 3:38 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-10 4:54 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 10:54 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-10 16:58 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 17:58 ` William Dale
2001-07-10 18:39 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-10 20:10 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 20:46 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 20:54 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:15 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 21:29 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:10 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 21:26 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 21:26 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 21:48 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 21:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-11 1:59 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-11 2:38 ` DuckE
2001-07-11 21:00 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-12 1:42 ` DuckE
2001-07-12 10:54 ` UML for Ada raj
2001-07-12 8:03 ` Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) David Humphris
2001-07-13 2:43 ` DuckE
2001-07-23 21:53 ` Greg Bek
2001-07-20 7:49 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-10 20:26 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 20:39 ` Al Christians
2001-07-10 20:42 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-10 20:53 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Michael P. Card
2001-07-11 5:25 ` Ada and UML raj
2001-07-11 9:40 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-13 19:00 ` Nick Williams
2001-07-13 19:46 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-17 8:25 ` David Humphris
2001-07-16 0:56 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-16 1:57 ` Ada and UML - Rational dropping Ada? Jeff Creem
2001-07-16 17:37 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-17 18:59 ` Ada and UML Simon Wright
2001-07-23 14:38 ` John Kern
2001-08-04 6:29 ` Simon Wright
2001-07-11 0:25 ` Sure FIRM is lost, but really, who cares raj
2001-07-11 0:33 ` Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-10 12:58 ` John Kern
2001-07-10 13:59 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-10 1:21 ` is ada dead? Pat Rogers
2001-07-10 2:29 ` Al Christians
2001-07-09 1:44 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2001-07-08 21:05 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-09 10:43 ` One True Language (was: is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-09 15:09 ` is ada dead? Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 18:40 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-09 2:37 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-07 23:03 ` chris.danx
2001-07-09 15:22 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-09 16:13 ` chris.danx
2001-07-10 9:02 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-10 10:29 ` Contributing patches to GPL Ada projects (was: Is Ada dead?) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-10 12:44 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-10 15:24 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 22:33 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 7:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-11 13:07 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 16:26 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 13:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-11 16:30 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-11 17:45 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-14 14:05 ` Robert Dewar
2001-07-16 15:38 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-16 17:37 ` Ken Garlington
2001-07-11 12:35 ` McDoobie
2001-07-12 8:16 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-14 19:48 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-15 0:16 ` McDoobie
2001-07-18 16:17 ` Stephen Leake
2001-07-18 17:55 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-19 23:13 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-20 17:05 ` Stephen Leake
2001-07-10 13:58 ` is ada dead? Ted Dennison
2001-07-10 17:04 ` Pascal Obry
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