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From: Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Three simple questions
Date: 2000/10/16
Date: 2000-10-16T18:45:24+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86itqs7hep.fsf@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcc7l7893ia.fsf@world.std.com

Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com> writes:
> I don't buy it.  I find it impossible to chat about programs of any
> substantial size without writing them down -- that's what whiteboards
> are for. [...]

May be we aren't talking about the same thing. 

I have no problem telling someone (over the phone, so no whiteboards),
that the gizmo they're looking after in our code (> 100K, not that big
by Ada standard, but definitely not toy size ;-) is in package gizmo
factory, function make it with the argument item color being red which
translates directly to Gizmo_Factory.Make_It (Item_Color => Red); no
need to look up the spec or to try 50 casings.  When I run after
inconsitent names, I change them and try to educate the author (non
software engineer) about the merits of consistency in big programs (>
100 lines ;-).

As for talking about complex algorithms, or for how to insert your new
feature which will need changing over 20 packages, yes the whiteboard
or your favourite editor buffer is needed, I unfortunately agree 100%.

-- 
Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org>




  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-09  0:00 Three simple questions Frank Christiny
2000-10-09  0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-10-09  0:00   ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00     ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-10-10  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-11  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  0:00                   ` The AI process (was: Three simple questions) Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-10-12  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-16  0:00                   ` Three simple questions Robert A Duff
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-11  0:11       ` wv12
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  3:25           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00             ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-10-23  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-28 11:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:57                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-10-16  3:10               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00             ` James Hassett
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-11  0:00         ` David Gillon
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-11  2:12         ` DuckE
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Case for case-sensitivity (Was: Three simple questions) Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-10  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-10  0:00           ` John Magness
2000-10-10  0:00         ` tmoran
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-10-12  0:00           ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00         ` dmitry6243
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-12  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  0:00             ` nickerson
2000-10-15  1:48               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-10-11  4:39         ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-10  0:47   ` Three simple questions Larry Elmore
2000-10-10  1:16     ` Ed Falis
2000-10-11  3:47       ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-13  0:00         ` Philippe Torres
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-10-10  0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  3:59   ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-10  0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
     [not found]         ` <39EAEEEA.4F58C47C@cepsz.unizar.es>
2000-10-16  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-16  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:43                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-03  7:24                   ` E. E. Cummings (was Re: Three simple questions) Robert I. Eachus
2000-10-17  0:00               ` Three simple questions Keith Thompson
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:37       ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-16  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby [this message]
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ronald Cole
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Larry Hazel
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  1:05   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  3:28         ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
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