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From: Richard D Riehle <laoXhai@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT Support Costs
Date: 2000/01/24
Date: 2000-01-24T22:41:39+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ikf3$dgn$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: x7vzotxuhdv.fsf@pogner.demon.co.uk

In article <x7vzotxuhdv.fsf@pogner.demon.co.uk>,
	Simon Wright <simon@pogner.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Robert Kirkbride <rob@laptop.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> Does anyone have any recommendations of cheaper compilers that cater
>> for small projects?
>
>Aonix, perhaps?

Who knows how long Aonix will be viable for Ada compilers. They just
fired most of the people with any experience in Ada and closed down
the Burlington office where all the Wintel work is done.  Word is
that Aonix even fired their president and others from the old Ada
group.  So, "Aonix, perhaps," but I would not count on it.

Low-cost compilers?  Only GNAT is completed with all the libaries.
Janus from RR Software is pretty good if you can live without some
of the libraries and a few features such as requeue, ATC, and other
seldom-used features. Stoneybrook Software makes the Ada compiler
being used for Sage-ST  (formerly AdaSage), and it produces pretty
efficient code.  Stoneybrook Ada, like Janus, is missing some of
the Ada 95 features.  Rational apparently decided not to upgrade
Meridian to Ada 95.  Maybe Averstar will decide to package its Ada
compiler and sell it in shrinkwrap form if Aonix gets out of the 
Ada business.  

Ada compiler publishing is an expensive business. ACT is discovering
the economics of it and responding appropriately.  In fact, any 
company that relies on compilers for its revenue is likely to find 
the markeplace small.  Borland found out about that before it went
through its restructuring.  Ada is a very tiny marketplace.  To make
money in software one can either raise prices to meet the small 
demand for product or have a product (such as Quicken) for which the
demand is so high the unit price can be small.  It is very difficult
to fault ACT for its pricing given the small marketplace demanding a
high quality product.  Now if Ada were as popular as Java or C++ ...

Richard Riehle
richard@adaworks.com
 




  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-01-24  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-22  0:00 GNAT Support Costs Robert Kirkbride
2000-01-23  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
2000-01-23  0:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-01-23  0:00     ` DuckE
2000-01-24  0:00       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-01-23  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-01-23  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-24  0:00   ` Richard D Riehle [this message]
2000-01-24  0:00     ` Jeff Creem
2000-01-25  0:00     ` Ed Falis
2000-01-24  0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-24  0:00 ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-25  0:00   ` Pascal Obry
2000-01-27  0:00   ` Stephen Leake
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-29  0:00       ` Laurent Guerby
2000-01-30  0:00         ` Rob Kirkbride
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Laurent Guerby
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10  0:00               ` Jean-Marten Marchi
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10  0:00               ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` DuckE
2000-02-11  0:00                   ` Craig Spannring
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-10  0:00                   ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-10  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-11  0:00                       ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11  0:00                   ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11  0:00                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11  0:00                       ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11  0:00                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-11  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-11  0:00                           ` Andreas Winckler
2000-02-11  0:00                         ` Gautier
2000-02-12  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11  0:00                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-05  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-10  0:00       ` Rush Kester
2000-01-28  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
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