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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: The revolution will not be standardized
Date: 2000/01/06
Date: 2000-01-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <852ehv$53$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcc7lho9n4g.fsf@world.std.com

In article <wcc7lho9n4g.fsf@world.std.com>,
  Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com> wrote:
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>
> I guess the one thing I admire most about Java is its strict
> insistence on portability.  I think that's a Good Thing.  On
> the other hand, in practise, what matters is what
> implementations do, which is not
> something the language designer can control.

It is well known that complete portability can be achieved
with high level languages, the kind that people usually regard
as interpretive languages, e.g. SNOBOL-4. [side note, the work
on SPITBOL shows that it is possible in fact to compile such
languages successfully].

My feeling about Java is that it falls between two desirable
points, and thus is a bit of a failure in this regard.

If you want to take the hit for 100% portability, then do it
properly, and produce a proper high level language (something
with the flavors of SNOBOL4, SETL, APL, PROLOG, ABC, Python).
Don't end up with a low level machine oriented language which
still has 32-bit wrap around integers :-)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-01-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-12-09  0:00 The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-10  0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-12-10  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-12  0:00   ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-12  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-13  0:00       ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-12-14  0:00           ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-13  0:00       ` reason67
1999-12-13  0:00         ` Aidan Skinner
1999-12-14  0:00           ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-14  0:00             ` reason67
1999-12-14  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15  0:00               ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-15  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
1999-12-14  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-14  0:00               ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-14  0:00                 ` Greg Martin
1999-12-14  0:00                   ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-15  0:00                     ` Greg Martin
1999-12-15  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-16  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-21  0:00                       ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-21  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21  0:00                           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-22  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-23  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23  0:00                                 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-01-05  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2000-01-06  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-07  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23  0:00                                 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-12-23  0:00                                   ` gnat 3.12 Michael Ben-Gershon
1999-12-23  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-15  0:00                   ` The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-14  0:00       ` Geoff Bull
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