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From: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk (Lawrence Kirby)
Subject: Re: The disturbing myth of Eiffel portability
Date: 1996/11/26
Date: 1996-11-26T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <848976955snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6LW663dk3RB@herold.franken.de


In article <6LW663dk3RB@herold.franken.de>
           jhd@herold.franken.de "Joachim Durchholz" writes:

>fred@genesis.demon.co.uk wrote 24.11.96:
>
>> Financial calculations within (fairly generous) limits can use IEEE
>> floating point and be *proven* correct barring bugs in the implementation.
>> But bugs can affect integer calculations as well.
>
>However, integer bugs are less likely. After all, IEEE format is much more  
>complicated (at least in comparison to two's-complement integer). For IEEE  
>format, there is room for interpretation (really there isn't, but some  
>implementors behave as if there were).
>E.g. the infamous Pentium bug was in the FPU, not in the ALU. Of course  
>this is jumping to conclusions from a statistically insignificant  
>sample...

Doesn't the Pentium use the FPU for integer division?

>> No
>> format can represent general irrational quantities precisely.
>
>There is one - storing formulae instead of quantities :)
>
>Actually this is feasible - Mathematica and Co. do exactly this. This  
>allows them to compute as many digits as required on the fly, without loss  
>of precision from intermediate results.
>(Of course there is still a round-off error, but it is always on the last  
>printed digits.)

So Mathematica still have to evaluate the formulae at some point when you
need a value and the issue of how you round is still there.

-- 
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Lawrence Kirby | fred@genesis.demon.co.uk
Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com
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      reply	other threads:[~1996-11-26  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-11-15  0:00 The disturbing myth of Eiffel portability The Rt Rev'd Colin James III, KOTM 1/96
1996-11-17  0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-11-17  0:00 ` Eoin Woods
1996-11-17  0:00 ` The Rt Rev'd Colin James III, KOTM 1/96
1996-11-18  0:00   ` James Youngman
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Paul Johnson
1996-11-27  0:00         ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-28  0:00           ` Don Harrison
1996-11-29  0:00             ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-29  0:00             ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Don Harrison
1996-11-30  0:00                 ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-12-01  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-12-02  0:00                   ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-20  0:00   ` Jeff Miller
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-18  0:00 ` Stephen J Bevan
1996-11-19  0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-19  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-22  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-01  0:00             ` Graham C. Hughes
1996-12-01  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-02  0:00                 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-12-06  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-09  0:00                     ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-11-26  0:00         ` Van Snyder
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-25  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21  0:00     ` Francois Labreque
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-24  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21  0:00     ` Keith Thompson
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-24  0:00       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-11-20  0:00   ` James Mansion
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-25  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-26  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby [this message]
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