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From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: The revolution will not be standardized
Date: 1999/12/15
Date: 1999-12-15T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838mhs$cii$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3856EA29.7B4C0A95@quadruscorp.com

In article <3856EA29.7B4C0A95@quadruscorp.com>,
  "Marin D. Condic" <mcondic-nospam@quadruscorp.com> wrote:

> The "language war" I refer to is the one that seems to get started up
> here occasionally concerning defining terminology. Personally, I may
> prefer not to spend too much time trying to get a consensus going on
> what constitutes a "Standard" because I think I'll know one when I see
> one. When I look at the ARM, I see something with a relatively high
> level of standardization. Micro$oft Visual Basic on the other hand,
> has a relatively low level of standardization. (I can't count on what
> it contains from one moment to the next.)

Right. And the Windows API I'd say is even lower, because you can't
count on it even between releases, and if you are a competitor you *can*
count on it changing to hose you. What I see is Sun positioning
themselves where they *could* also do that if they so choose.

To try and drag this back to my original point, I think lack of open
standardization has just doomed Java. Perhaps it isn't obvious from
external signs right now, but  a little knowledge of history will make
it quite clear. (If you don't buy my argument, go read "The Last
Dinosaur and the Tarpits of Doom", particularly the "Historical Detour:
The Open Standards Steamroller" and "Microcomputers: The Valley that
Time Forgot" sections, at
http://members.tripod.com/adrianomerlotto/docs/lastdino.html )

Anyway, *given* that Java is doomed, wouldn't it be a good idea to be
positioning Ada as the alternative? The language itself is nearly as
portable, in some cases moreso. The portable API functionality is a bit
lacking, but certianly no moreso than any of the other alternatives.

--
T.E.D.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-12-15  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-12-09  0:00 The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-10  0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-12-10  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-12  0:00   ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-12  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-13  0:00       ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-12-14  0:00           ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-13  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-13  0:00       ` reason67
1999-12-13  0:00         ` Aidan Skinner
1999-12-14  0:00           ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-14  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-15  0:00               ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-15  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
1999-12-14  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-14  0:00               ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-14  0:00                 ` Greg Martin
1999-12-14  0:00                   ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-15  0:00                     ` Greg Martin
1999-12-15  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison [this message]
1999-12-16  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
1999-12-21  0:00                       ` Geoff Bull
1999-12-21  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-21  0:00                           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-12-22  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-23  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23  0:00                                 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-01-05  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-06  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-07  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-23  0:00                                 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-12-23  0:00                                   ` gnat 3.12 Michael Ben-Gershon
1999-12-23  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-15  0:00                   ` The revolution will not be standardized Ted Dennison
1999-12-14  0:00             ` reason67
1999-12-14  0:00       ` Geoff Bull
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