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From: john@assen.demon.co.uk (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: GNAT Codesize
Date: 1996/07/02
Date: 1996-07-02T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <836339494.14712.1@assen.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.836136852@schonberg


dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote:

>John McCabe said (speaking of symbol information in executables)

<..snip..>

>  ">(c) it would violate system standards, which are to keep debugging
>   >       information in the objects and executables. The GNAT approach
>   >       is deliberately system standard compatible to allow use of
>   >       standard debuggers.
>   Yes, that appears reasonable. Obviously this tends not to be so
>   important in the cross-compilation systems I mentioned as they must
>   provide their own proprietary debuggers and processor simulators.

>Actually in my experience this is exactly wrong. It is for cross-development
>that it is most critical to generate debugging information in standard
>system format. For example, many of the hardware emulators provide builtin
>debugging capability based on generation of symbol information in object
>files and executables in the standard format. Such systems will typically
>have utilities to strip/remove/process this information in a form that is
>suitable for the emulator use, but it is critical that it be generated in
>standard format. In fact thinking about cross-systems is one of the strong
>arguments in favor of the GNAT approach of using standard debugging info.

Not in my experience. My current compiler uses a proprietary format
and even when using an Tek emulator with a Tek 8086 Pascal
cross-compiler on a VAX we had to use a separate utility to format the
output for use in the emuulator.


Best Regards
John McCabe <john@assen.demon.co.uk>





  reply	other threads:[~1996-07-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-06-20  0:00 GNAT Codesize Haug Buerger
1996-06-20  0:00 ` James E. Hopper
1996-06-21  0:00 ` Doug Smith
1996-06-21  0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1996-06-21  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00   ` John McCabe
1996-06-24  0:00     ` John Howard
1996-06-25  0:00       ` David J. Fiander
1996-06-25  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-28  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-01  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-03  0:00           ` John McCabe
1996-07-02  0:00         ` John McCabe
1996-07-03  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-06  0:00             ` John McCabe
1996-07-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-06  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-08  0:00             ` Gavin Smyth
1996-06-28  0:00       ` John McCabe
1996-06-28  0:00         ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-29  0:00           ` John McCabe
1996-07-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-05  0:00               ` John McCabe
1996-07-05  0:00             ` JP Thornley
1996-06-30  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-02  0:00           ` John McCabe [this message]
1996-07-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-03  0:00   ` Question about the need for requeue as described in Rationale James A. Squire
1996-07-05  0:00     ` Bo I. Sanden
1996-07-05  0:00       ` progers
1996-07-06  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-04  0:00   ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-07-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-08  0:00   ` James A. Squire
1996-07-08  0:00   ` James A. Squire
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-09  0:00     ` Bo I. Sanden
1996-07-08  0:00   ` James A. Squire
1996-07-09  0:00     ` progers
1996-07-10  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-10  0:00       ` progers
1996-07-09  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-07-08  0:00 ` James A. Squire
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