From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 06:33:52 -0400
Date: 2012-05-12T06:33:52-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <82txzlu1rj.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20120511040710.52bbc3fd@vostro
Oliver Kleinke <oliver.kleinke@c-01a.de> writes:
> Am Thu, 10 May 2012 11:11:25 +0100
> schrieb Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>:
>
>> > A major problem of the formatter/RM sources is that they only
>> > provide partial semantic information about the contents, that IS
>> > 1995-style.
>>
>> What, exactly, is missing? Can you give an example?
>
> I'll provide one example:
>
> when ARM_Output.Small =>
> if Indent = 0 then
> return "Small";
> elsif Indent = 1 then
> return "Notes";
> elsif Indent = 2 then
> return "Annotations";
>
> As you can easily see the two style attributes 'Small' (paragraph/header
> style) and Indent (paragraph indentation) are used to determine the
> semantics of the paragraph's contents. So if you are a bright guy,
> you'll figure out what's bad about it.
>
> More semantic markup would also facilitate the extraction of information
> from the RM, e.g. to feed the data into an IDE (Manuel Collado pointed
> that out).
This appears to be a snippet from arm_html.adb, in the function
Paragraph_Name (that's the only occurance of 'return "Small"'). It is
deducing a name for a style, presumably to enable the use of a CSS
style.
It might make sense to use semantic information directly to get the
style name, but the arm_form code takes an indirect approach. It already
has a notion of "Style", which is more fine-grained than the CSS style
names Randy chose to implement.
So this is an internal design choice in the HTML formatter, not a
feature of the Scheme source.
For example, here's a portion of the Syntax section of 3.6 Array Types,
from file 03B.MSS:
@begin{Syntax}
@Syn{lhs=<array_type_definition>,rhs="
@Syn2{unconstrained_array_definition} | @Syn2{constrained_array_definition}"}
@Syn{lhs=<unconstrained_array_definition>,rhs="
@key{array}(@Syn2{index_subtype_definition} {, @Syn2{index_subtype_definition}}) @key{of} @Syn2{component_definition}"}
@Syn{lhs=<index_subtype_definition>,rhs="@Syn2{subtype_mark} @key{range} <>"}
@Syn{lhs=<constrained_array_definition>,rhs="
@key{array} (@Syn2{discrete_subtype_definition} {, @Syn2{discrete_subtype_definition}}) @key{of} @Syn2{component_definition}"}
@Syn{lhs=<discrete_subtype_definition>,rhs="@SynI{discrete_}@Syn2{subtype_indication} | @Syn2{range}"}
@ChgRef{Version=[2],Kind=[Revised],ARef=[AI95-00230-01],ARef=[AI95-00406-01]}
@Syn{lhs=<component_definition>,rhs="@Chg{Version=[2],New=<
>,Old=<>}[@key{aliased}] @Syn2{subtype_indication}@Chg{Version=[2],New=<
| [@key{aliased}] @Syn2{access_definition}>,Old=<>}"}
@end{Syntax}
That looks like the necessary semantic info is there.
And here's the "Notes" and "Examples" sections of that Scheme source:
@begin{Notes}
All components of an array have the same subtype. In particular, for an array
of components that are one-dimensional arrays, this means that all components
have the same bounds and hence the same length.
Each elaboration of an @nt<array_type_definition> creates
a distinct array type. A consequence of this is that each
object whose @nt<object_declaration> contains an @nt<array_type_definition>
is of its own unique type.
@end{Notes}
@begin{Examples}
@Leading@keepnext@i(Examples of type declarations with unconstrained array definitions: )
@begin(Example)
@key(type) Vector @key(is) @key(array)(Integer @key(range) <>) @key(of) Real;
@key(type) Matrix @key(is) @key(array)(Integer @key(range) <>, Integer @key(range) <>) @key(of) Real;
@key(type) Bit_Vector @key(is) @key(array)(Integer @key(range) <>) @key(of) Boolean;
@key(type) Roman @key(is) @key(array)(Positive @key(range) <>) @key(of) Roman_Digit; --@RI[ see @RefSecNum(Character Types)]
@end(Example)
The next paragraph shows an example of direct formatting in addition to
semantic markup:
@begin{WideAbove}
@leading@keepnext@i(Examples of type declarations with constrained array definitions: )
@end{WideAbove}
@begin(Example)
@key(type) Table @key(is) @key(array)(1 .. 10) @key(of) Integer;
@key(type) Schedule @key(is) @key(array)(Day) @key(of) Boolean;
@key(type) Line @key(is) @key(array)(1 .. Max_Line_Size) @key(of) Character;
@end(Example)
As with all markup, it's tempting to not make macros for _everything_,
but to do ad hoc formatting occasionally.
>> > Providing a modern HTML version does not exclude the possibility to
>> > provide a more 'compatible' version,
>>
>> You have yet to define what you mean by either "modern" or
>> "compatible", either by example or description.
>
> For instance the paragraphs have no anchors, thus the possibility of
> deep-linking is limited. The Index has neither anchors for the letters
> nor links to them at the top.
Ok, there could easily be more anchors. That's easy to change in the
arm_form sources.
I don't see how that has anything to do with "modern"; the requirement
for lots of anchors is implicit in the notion of hypertext, which is
ancient!
I would say "more complete navigation" for this, rather than "more
modern".
Nor does it require a radical new tool; just a minor addition to the
current tool.
> I can think of a lot more.
Please do, and post them here, or (better), post patches to arm_form
Ada code.
--
-- Stephe
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2012-04-29 15:22 Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Stephen Leake
2012-04-30 6:06 ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-01 3:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-01 6:06 ` Thomas Løcke
2012-05-01 9:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 15:26 ` J Kimball
2012-05-03 14:26 ` [OT] CSS max-width (Was: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-03 15:52 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 22:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-03 15:23 ` Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-03 23:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-04 1:28 ` BrianG
2012-05-09 11:17 ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-09 12:06 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-09 13:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 13:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2012-05-09 14:52 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-09 16:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2012-05-09 16:51 ` Jerrid Kimball
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2012-05-09 19:59 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10 1:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10 7:35 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-10 9:43 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10 10:44 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-10 13:19 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
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