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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Subject: Re: Is Aunit helpful?
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:59:13 -0400
Date: 2010-08-16T03:59:13-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82iq3bugxa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 32dc1191-0a83-40ef-8bbc-a13a06f2167e@u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com

Midoan <midoan.ses@gmail.com> writes:

>> Midoan <midoan....@gmail.com> writes:
>> > On Aug 14, 6:57 am, Stephen Leake <stephen_le...@stephe-leake.org>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> How can a tool possibly generate expected results? If it reads the code,
>> it can only generate the results that the code _will_ produce. But
>> that's the opposite of a test; the expected results are what the code
>> _should_ produce, based on some other spec (not the Ada spec). A testing
>> process _must_ assume the code is wrong.
>
> Yes of course you are right; and that's what we meant. What we meant
> was that the code's result must always be validated externally of the
> tool. 

Ok, good.

> Mika will simply ask the question "given these inputs, are those
> expected outputs?". 

I suggest you emphasize this point on your website.

If a website describes a tool that claims to "automatically generate
tests", I stop reading, since I know that's a bogus claim.

I would consider a tool that "helps identify all required test cases".

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-16  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-04 14:19 Is Aunit helpful? Ada novice
2010-08-05 12:07 ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-05 17:29   ` Ada novice
2010-08-05 18:18     ` Tero Koskinen
2010-08-05 20:39       ` Ada novice
2010-08-05 20:57         ` Simon Wright
2010-08-13 16:43         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-13 19:34           ` Simon Wright
2010-08-13 20:59             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14  6:57           ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-14 13:38             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14 21:33             ` Midoan
2010-08-14 21:38               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14 21:49                 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-14 22:04                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-15  7:57                 ` Midoan
2010-08-15 11:46                   ` Simon Wright
2010-08-15 12:10               ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-15 21:47                 ` Midoan
2010-08-15 22:58                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-17  2:46                     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-08-17 12:37                       ` Cyrille
2010-08-20  9:22                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-20  9:20                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-16  7:59                   ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2010-08-16  9:02                     ` Midoan
2010-08-26 17:45                       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-08-07 16:57       ` Marco
2010-08-13 14:09       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-05 20:48     ` Simon Wright
2010-08-06  9:06       ` Ada novice
2010-08-06 16:51         ` Simon Wright
2010-08-06 18:13           ` Ada novice
2010-08-08 13:39 ` John McCormick
2010-08-08 17:10   ` Ada novice
2010-08-09 17:05     ` John McCormick
2010-08-09 17:23       ` Michael R
2010-08-10  8:33         ` Ada novice
2010-08-10 13:48           ` John McCormick
2010-08-10  9:45       ` Mark Lorenzen
2010-08-10 14:07         ` John McCormick
2010-08-10 17:32       ` Ada novice
2010-08-12 15:04         ` John McCormick
2010-08-17 15:51           ` Ada novice
2010-08-13 15:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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