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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Subject: Re: Is Aunit helpful?
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:10:34 -0400
Date: 2010-08-15T08:10:34-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82eie0vzyd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3957496a-af4b-45f5-87c9-327b22d19f08@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com

Midoan <midoan.ses@gmail.com> writes:

> On Aug 14, 6:57 am, Stephen Leake <stephen_le...@stephe-leake.org>
> wrote:
>> "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duch...@yahoo.fr> writes:
>>
>> > About AUnit: just seen about what it is, how it is set up and how it
>> > works. Seems a question is still pending : “how to be sure the test
>> > cover  all relevant case ?”. I do not see a way to be sure testing
>> > cover all  cases.
>>
>> Correct, AUnit does not do that. gcov does, although I have not used it
>> very much. It can be difficult to use the output of gcov.
>>
>> > That is the main limitation of this kind of approach.
>>
>> What alternative approaches provide coverage information?
>>
>
> FYI, note that with Mika (http://www.midoan.com/), the automatic test
> data  generator for Ada, it is possible to take in your existing test
> cases, check the coverage achieved, and automatically generate missing
> test inputs and expected test result 

How can a tool possibly generate expected results? If it reads the code,
it can only generate the results that the code _will_ produce. But
that's the opposite of a test; the expected results are what the code
_should_ produce, based on some other spec (not the Ada spec). A testing
process _must_ assume the code is wrong.

If the spec is machine readable, then the tool has a chance. But I see
no mention of machine readable specs on the midoan site.

Hmm. If the Ada spec includes pre/postconditions (Ada 2012), then some
meaningful tests can be generated, but the compiler will already do
that.

> (which can be validated to form new test cases automatically).

validated by what? If that means "reviewed by a human", that might be
ok. But there would be a very strong temptation to say "the tool must be
right". 

> This can be done to achieve branch, decision or MC/DC coverage as
> desired.

Generating a scaffold that gives coverage could be useful, but it must
be completed manually, to ensure correct results.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-15 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-04 14:19 Is Aunit helpful? Ada novice
2010-08-05 12:07 ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-05 17:29   ` Ada novice
2010-08-05 18:18     ` Tero Koskinen
2010-08-05 20:39       ` Ada novice
2010-08-05 20:57         ` Simon Wright
2010-08-13 16:43         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-13 19:34           ` Simon Wright
2010-08-13 20:59             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14  6:57           ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-14 13:38             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14 21:33             ` Midoan
2010-08-14 21:38               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-14 21:49                 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-14 22:04                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-15  7:57                 ` Midoan
2010-08-15 11:46                   ` Simon Wright
2010-08-15 12:10               ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2010-08-15 21:47                 ` Midoan
2010-08-15 22:58                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-17  2:46                     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-08-17 12:37                       ` Cyrille
2010-08-20  9:22                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-20  9:20                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-16  7:59                   ` Stephen Leake
2010-08-16  9:02                     ` Midoan
2010-08-26 17:45                       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-08-07 16:57       ` Marco
2010-08-13 14:09       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-05 20:48     ` Simon Wright
2010-08-06  9:06       ` Ada novice
2010-08-06 16:51         ` Simon Wright
2010-08-06 18:13           ` Ada novice
2010-08-08 13:39 ` John McCormick
2010-08-08 17:10   ` Ada novice
2010-08-09 17:05     ` John McCormick
2010-08-09 17:23       ` Michael R
2010-08-10  8:33         ` Ada novice
2010-08-10 13:48           ` John McCormick
2010-08-10  9:45       ` Mark Lorenzen
2010-08-10 14:07         ` John McCormick
2010-08-10 17:32       ` Ada novice
2010-08-12 15:04         ` John McCormick
2010-08-17 15:51           ` Ada novice
2010-08-13 15:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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