From: john@assen.demon.co.uk (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems
Date: 1996/02/19
Date: 1996-02-19T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <824761057.18193@assen.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.824686406@schonberg
dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote:
>John says
>"As far as K&RII is concerned, in the section in the back with the
>annotations it explains the purpose of the volatile qualifier as being
>to ensure that the compiler doesn't optimize e.g. redundant
>assignments etc on a particular object."
>John, get a copy of the ANSI standard if you want to discuss things at
>this level. K&RII is not a full accurate description of the standard (nor
>does it pretend to be!)
I know that and I will try to get hold of the ANSI standard, however
K&RII contains a summary of the standard with annotations explaining
the reasoning behind some of the features and to this end it is very
useful.
>Any serious C programmer should (a) have a copy of the ANSI standard and
>(b) know their way around it.
>The same of course is true for Ada programmers.
>I am not saying that people should learn the languages from the standard,
>that's asking too much, but you should learn to use it as a reference,
>since it is the only authoritative source for detailed semantic information
>in both cases.
Very true.
Best Regards
John McCabe <john@assen.demon.co.uk>
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Tore Joergensen
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-19 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-23 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-19 0:00 ` R.A.L Williams
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is great for embedded systems (was Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Ken & Virginia Garlington
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1996-02-19 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Hugh Dunne
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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1996-02-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ken & Virginia Garlington
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe [this message]
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
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1996-02-26 0:00 ` Ada 83 " Alan Brain
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless " R.A.L Williams
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1996-03-21 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] John G. Volan
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-26 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-31 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Alan Brain
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert Dewar
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems David Weller
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Bug or Limitation? (was: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Robert Dewar
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-20 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-29 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Kevin Dalley
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Stephen Crawley
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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