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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: how to analyze clock drift
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:03:19 +0100
Date: 2014-11-24T22:03:19+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81qc6fcqnm1t$.52r91xazm7qo$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a28a9d6c-5e79-4477-a0dc-3707334fa569@googlegroups.com

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 12:30:53 -0800 (PST), brbarkstrom@gmail.com wrote:

> If you want to get time standard information, you can start with the
> very short background piece from Wikipedia:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_time_and_frequency_signal_service

The earth radius Re=6_371_000 m. Pi * Re / c where c is the speed of light
299_792_458 m/s is a rough estimation of the delay the signal takes
traveling from the US to EU, ignoring refraction, interference, amplifiers,
encoders/decoders etc. This is catastrophic 67 ms. It could be improved by
statistical processing to, maybe, 10 ms or so. Now compare that with the
resolution of a typical real-time clock, which is >3 ns!

Add here times required to sample the signal, to pass it through the system
layers, and you will understand how poor the thing is for any time
measurement (except maybe for the continental shift times (:-)).

Fortunately, neither global time signals nor NTP is needed for time
measurements, clock drift included.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-18 22:12 how to analyze clock drift Emanuel Berg
2014-11-19  1:41 ` tmoran
2014-11-19  2:10   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-19 10:30     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-19 22:15       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-20 16:27         ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-20  1:10       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-20 14:11         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-19 13:08   ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-19  2:10 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-19  2:37   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-19  2:28 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-19  2:44   ` tmoran
2014-11-19  2:51     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-19  9:01       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-19 22:12         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-20  9:42           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-20 20:41             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-20 21:27               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-20 21:54                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-20 21:57                   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-21  2:27                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-21  3:02                     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-21 16:49                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-21 21:06                         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-22 18:18                           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-23 20:15                             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-24  1:15                               ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-24  1:34                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-24  9:22                                   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-24 17:30                                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-24  8:44                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-24 17:24                                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-24 18:28                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-24 20:30                                       ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-24 21:03                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-11-24 21:34                                           ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-25 14:04                                           ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-25 18:16                                             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-25 20:50                                               ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-21 21:15                         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-11-21 22:31                           ` Emanuel Berg
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