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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Software Engineering in Florida
Date: 1999/11/08
Date: 1999-11-08T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <807202$9if$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 804plo$dvs$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net

In article <804plo$dvs$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,
  Richard D Riehle <laoXhai@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Is software engineering simply an attractive oxymoron?
                                               ^^^^^^^^

I assume you mean contradiction in terms (I see no possible
interesting literary effect in this particular phrase :-)

> One of my
> degrees is in software engineering, and I am still not sure
> there is such as thing as "engineering" when speaking of
> software.  It  seems to be, rather, an emerging discipline
> with more to emerge
> before we can really call it engineering.

I disagree, engineering has nothing to do with the state of
development of a discipline, but rather with the *kind* of
discipline. It is clear to me that the activities of building
software are fundamentally similar to other engineering
activities.

> What is the difference between the effort of a methodical
> programmer and a software engineer.  Here is Silicon Valley,
> every programmer is
> now calling himself/herself a software engineer.  The term has
> lost any meaning it may have had.

Well to many people programming means coding, so that is in
fact a useful term, to emphasize that coding is just one
aspect of the total engineering effort.



<We tout Ada as a software engineering language>

I hope not, this is a useless idea, almost as useless as
object oriented programming language :-)

Languages are tools in which you can do many things. Calling
a programming language a software engineering language is
like calling a hammer a "fine furniture building hammer" :-)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-11-08  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-11-04  0:00 Software Engineering in Florida Charles H. Sampson
1999-11-05  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-07  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
1999-11-07  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-08  0:00       ` Ron Skoog
1999-11-08  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-11-08  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-08  0:00             ` Ron Skoog
1999-11-08  0:00             ` Ron Skoog
1999-11-08  0:00       ` Engineering & Software Engineering M.
1999-11-08  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-08  0:00       ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-11-08  0:00         ` Software Engineering in Florida Ehud Lamm
1999-11-08  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-08  0:00           ` Marin Condic
1999-11-08  0:00       ` Marin Condic
1999-11-08  0:00         ` tmoran
1999-11-08  0:00           ` Marin Condic
1999-11-08  0:00             ` tmoran
1999-11-09  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-10  0:00         ` M.
1999-11-10  0:00           ` Marin Condic
1999-11-11  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00               ` Marin Condic
1999-11-12  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-10  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-05  0:00 ` David Botton
1999-11-06  0:00   ` M.
1999-11-07  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1999-11-07  0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1999-11-09  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-11  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1999-11-12  0:00       ` Engineering Liability (was Re: Software Engineering in Florida) Robert I. Eachus
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