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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla)
Date: 1999/11/06
Date: 1999-11-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vvroo$grr$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: s23mnbp024223@corp.supernews.com

In article <s23mnbp024223@corp.supernews.com>,
  "Vladimir Olensky" <vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Robert Dewar wrote in message <7vqd45$iiq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >In article <s20tckqd24291@corp.supernews.com>,
> >  "Vladimir Olensky" <vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> As for me I fully support that.
> >> I think that any unchecked conversions should
> >> be disallowed for pointers that are traced by GC.
> >> It is not only extremely unsafe but I do not see any sense
> >> in that if language is extended to support GC.
> >
> >But that of course is not enough to prevent scary GC bugs :-)
>
> Yes, I agree this does not prevent  GC bugs that may exist
> in GC implementation itself.  But at least that could  provide
> isolation between GC implementation and GC client.
> The last one will never be able to spoil anything in GC
> internal data.

Again you miss my point, unless you segregate memory with
hardware memory protect, allowing unchecked conversion, and
hence address calculations, anywhere, can damage data structures
anywhere. I am NOT talking about bugs in the GC implementation
itself.


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-11-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-23  0:00 Ammo-zilla Stanley R. Allen
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-28  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla mitch
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-31  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-01  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Laurent Guerby
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-29  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla mike
1999-10-29  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Wes Groleau
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Geoff Bull
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ada and GC. Was: Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                           ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                               ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                           ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-11-06  0:00                                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-10  0:00                                         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-12  0:00                                               ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` Ada GC (was Ammo-zilla) Nick Roberts
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                           ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Gnat IDE (was: Garbage colletion) Ted Dennison
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Garbage colletion Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ada and GC (Was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-29  0:00               ` David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-10-30  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-10-29  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-31  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-25  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Jean-Pierre Rosen
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