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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing
Date: 1999/11/02
Date: 1999-11-02T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vnddp$ck6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 381F0B97.8DBCFFC8@maths.unine.ch

In article <381F0B97.8DBCFFC8@maths.unine.ch>,

> The extra $ for Mac is a bit a handicap and a (stupid)
> way to discourage programmation (not Ada specific).

That's upside down, it is not a matter of discouraging people,
but rather that no one has the time or resources to encourage
them more actively on the Mac, which is a pity. Gautier, if
you think it's enough of a pity to be worth it, why don't you
create the MacOS port of GNAT. It's a fair job, but put it this
way: I think you have a better chance of completing this than
Nick Roberts does of completing his optimizing Ada compiler and
associated operating system written in Ada :-)

> In addition, these programming environments are highly
> uncompatible between them.
>
> Again, correct me if I'm wrong!

I really don't know what you are talking about here. Clearly
a GNAT port needs some command interpretor capability if it is
to be a full capability port.

> > I did not realize that the Lineo DR-DOS was a free software
> > product, under what license is the source code released?
>
> IIRC for individuals & education it's free. However it's
> not open-source (they released the kernel source for a
> time)...

Then it is not at ALL the same thing as what I had in mind, you
are using a totally different definition of free (gratuit) than
what I meant when I said that GNAT+GNU/Linux is the only totally
free (libre) Ada 95 solution.

By your solution there are other possibilities, actually much
more interesting than Lineo DR-DOS, which is pretty ancient
stuff of no interest to most people at this stage. For example,
personal use of Solaris x86 is free (gratuit), and that's a
very nice operating system.

> > Are you speaking from experience?
>
> Before moving to PC, the computing science department here
> was screwed with all these MPW, CodeWarrior & Co, licenses,
> command shells being not compatible between their
> sub-sub-versions

MPW and CodeWarrior have nothing to do whatsoever with what we
are talking about, so even if your CS dept did manage to get
screwed up with these (don't know why, never had any trouble
with MPW myself, which was what the old Alsys compiler used),
it is totally irrelevant to the discussion. Neither of these
products have anything to do with Ada 95 or GNAT.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-11-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-29  0:00 Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing vico
1999-10-29  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29  0:00   ` Gautier
1999-10-29  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-30  0:00       ` Dave Taylor
1999-10-30  0:00         ` gnat on macintosh James E. Hopper
1999-10-30  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-30  0:00             ` James E. Hopper
1999-10-31  0:00       ` Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Robert Dewar
1999-10-29  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1999-10-29  0:00       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-30  0:00     ` Siow Wey Hua
1999-10-29  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29  0:00       ` David Starner
1999-10-31  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-11-02  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-02  0:00             ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-03  0:00             ` Free Software -- was, " Richard D Riehle
1999-11-02  0:00           ` Gautier
1999-11-02  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00               ` tmoran
1999-11-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                   ` tmoran
     [not found]                     ` <01bf25cc$5d390fc0$022a6282@dieppe>
1999-11-03  0:00                       ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-04  0:00                         ` David Botton
1999-11-03  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                       ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                           ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-05  0:00                             ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-04  0:00                       ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-11-05  0:00                         ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-03  0:00                     ` Preben Randhol
1999-11-03  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Confusing language, was " tmoran
1999-11-03  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-05  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` tmoran
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` David Starner
1999-11-04  0:00                                 ` tmoran
1999-11-04  0:00                                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-05  0:00                                     ` Craig Spannring
1999-11-05  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05  0:00                                       ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-06  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-11-04  0:00                                   ` David Starner
1999-11-05  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                     ` tmoran
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-05  0:00                               ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-06  0:00                                 ` tmoran
1999-11-06  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08  0:00                                 ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-08  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                     ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-09  0:00                                       ` Y2K liability, was " tmoran
1999-11-09  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08  0:00                                     ` Marin Condic
1999-11-08  0:00                                       ` Ehud Lamm
1999-11-09  0:00                                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-09  0:00                                           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-11-09  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-09  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                         ` Marin Condic
1999-11-09  0:00                                           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10  0:00                                             ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                               ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-11  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00                                                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-11  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00                                                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-11  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00                                                 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-12  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11  0:00                                                 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-12  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00                                                     ` Marin Condic
1999-11-12  0:00                                                     ` Marin Condic
1999-11-13  0:00                                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-19  0:00                                                     ` GNAT.Calendar (was: Re: Confusing language, was Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing) Mario Amado Alves
1999-11-19  0:00                                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00                                                 ` Confusing language, was Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-12  0:00                                                   ` Marin Condic
1999-11-13  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-13  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-15  0:00                                                       ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-11-15  0:00                                                     ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-15  0:00                                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Confusing language etc Nick Roberts
1999-11-11  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05  0:00                         ` Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-05  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-03  0:00                     ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-03  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                           ` tmoran
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` tmoran
1999-11-05  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08  0:00                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-08  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                         ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-02  0:00             ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Gautier
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-03  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-03  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00               ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-03  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-10-29  0:00   ` David Botton
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