From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <oleh@vlinux.voxelvision.no>
Subject: Re: employment with ada
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:24:34 GMT
Date: 2003-05-06T09:24:34+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vhe888m25.fsf@vlinux.voxelvision.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qthdbv4u377tdrtvjq8llbopur75mt20df@4ax.com
DPH <rally2xs@compuserve.com> writes:
> On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:41:38 GMT, "P S Norby" <psnorby@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DPH" <rally2xs@compuserve.com>
> >Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
> >Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:03 AM
> >Subject: Re: employment with ada
> >
> >
> >
> >> 2) If they hire someone and train them in Ada, and designate them to
> >> program in Ada, all too often that person thinks to himself, "I'm
> >> learning a dead langauge, with nowhere to go if this project fails or
> >> completes" and the next thing you know, that person is in an exit
> >> interview, looking for a job that will provide "marketable skills."
> >>
> >
> >Given that JSF is the biggest DoD contract ever, and will last several
> >decades ('til 2050, according to someone on the "Nova" program on PBS about
> >the competition between Boeing & LMCO), one would think that that would be
> >enough prestige and security (if there is such a thing these days) to
> >overcome some programmers' doubts about language.
> >
> >And given that LMCO receives several hundred (or thousand?) resumes for each
> >posted position, you would think there would be more than enough who are
> >willing to do the job in Ada. (and how about screening out the non-willing
> >_before_ hiring/training them?)
>
> Any given Ada-speaking-only SW Engineer could and should be concerned
> about:
>
> 1) Getting laid off in spite of the hot project - "stuff" can happen.
>
> 2) Wanting the freedom to decide they don't want to work at the same
> place their whole career, and maybe live in some other state besides
> Texas or Georgia or wherever.
>
> 3) Maybe wanting to not get underpaid because the employer knows you
> don't have much of an option to go anywhere else because this, at 10
> years later, is the only Ada island, or maybe one of the 3 remaining
> Ada islands (and the other 2 are in places where it goes down to 38
> below zero in the winter) in the country.
>
> 4) Maybe just plain getting tired of Ada programming but not being
> able to leave with the narrow skillset.
>
> Dave Head
>
Yes, sadly there are too many employers who look mainly at prgromming
language skills. In my experience, knowledge of a speecific
programming language or specific tool is probably the least important
skill in a project of any size.
--
Ole-Hj. Kristensen
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2003-05-02 0:36 employment with ada tom
2003-05-02 0:41 ` Ed Falis
2003-05-02 8:51 ` John McCabe
2003-05-02 12:08 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-02 20:54 ` Bill Sheehan
2003-05-03 3:23 ` R. Srinivasan
2003-05-03 4:13 ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-03 5:03 ` anisimkov
2003-05-03 7:07 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03 7:46 ` AG
2003-05-05 5:38 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03 14:44 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 15:32 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-05-05 11:47 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 14:37 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 16:03 ` DPH
2003-05-03 16:22 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-03 17:18 ` DPH
2003-05-03 20:30 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-03 19:17 ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-03 20:35 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-04 11:01 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-05 0:34 ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05 2:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-05 3:33 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 12:30 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-04 13:14 ` DPH
2003-05-05 1:20 ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-07 12:20 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-08 18:20 ` tmoran
2003-05-09 11:45 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-09 13:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-09 17:13 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-05 3:28 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 10:45 ` DPH
2003-05-05 12:47 ` Ed Falis
2003-05-05 20:19 ` DPH
2003-05-05 20:28 ` Ed Falis
2003-05-06 11:30 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-07 13:22 ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-08 12:21 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:12 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-04 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:19 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-06 12:07 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 18:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-05 1:24 ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05 1:27 ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-10 20:29 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 3:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 4:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 16:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 23:04 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 15:29 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-11 17:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 19:24 ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-11 20:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-12 7:20 ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-04 0:25 ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-04 4:09 ` DPH
2003-05-04 19:37 ` P S Norby
2003-05-04 4:55 ` Steve
2003-05-04 12:55 ` DPH
2003-05-05 6:27 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-04 12:57 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 16:45 ` tmoran
2003-05-04 13:45 ` Alex Gibson
2003-05-05 4:07 ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 18:41 ` P S Norby
2003-05-05 20:26 ` DPH
2003-05-05 23:06 ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 23:20 ` DPH
2003-05-06 9:24 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen [this message]
2003-05-07 1:25 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-07 13:23 ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-07 16:36 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-06 9:32 ` Preben Randhol
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2003-05-04 1:32 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-05-06 16:19 ` L. Siever
2003-05-07 13:35 ` Stephen Leake
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