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From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <oleh@vlinux.voxelvision.no>
Subject: Re: employment with ada
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:24:34 GMT
Date: 2003-05-06T09:24:34+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vhe888m25.fsf@vlinux.voxelvision.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qthdbv4u377tdrtvjq8llbopur75mt20df@4ax.com

DPH <rally2xs@compuserve.com> writes:

> On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:41:38 GMT, "P S Norby" <psnorby@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DPH" <rally2xs@compuserve.com>
> >Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
> >Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:03 AM
> >Subject: Re: employment with ada
> >
> >
> >
> >> 2) If they hire someone and train them in Ada, and designate them to
> >> program in Ada, all too often that person thinks to himself, "I'm
> >> learning a dead langauge, with nowhere to go if this project fails or
> >> completes" and the next thing you know, that person is in an exit
> >> interview, looking for a job that will provide "marketable skills."
> >>
> >
> >Given that JSF is the biggest DoD contract ever, and will last several
> >decades ('til 2050, according to someone on the "Nova" program on PBS about
> >the competition between Boeing & LMCO), one would think that that would be
> >enough prestige and security (if there is such a thing these days) to
> >overcome some programmers' doubts about language.
> >
> >And given that LMCO receives several hundred (or thousand?) resumes for each
> >posted position, you would think there would be more than enough who are
> >willing to do the job in Ada.  (and how about screening out the non-willing
> >_before_ hiring/training them?)
> 
> Any given Ada-speaking-only SW Engineer could and should be concerned
> about:
> 
> 1) Getting laid off in spite of the hot project - "stuff" can happen.
> 
> 2) Wanting the freedom to decide they don't want to work at the same
> place their whole career, and maybe live in some other state besides
> Texas or Georgia or wherever.
> 
> 3) Maybe wanting to not get underpaid because the employer knows you
> don't have much of an option to go anywhere else because this, at 10
> years later, is the only Ada island, or maybe one of the 3 remaining
> Ada islands (and the other 2 are in places where it goes down to 38
> below zero in the winter) in the country.
> 
> 4) Maybe just plain getting tired of Ada programming but not being
> able to leave with the narrow skillset.
> 
> Dave Head
> 

Yes, sadly there are too many employers who look mainly at prgromming
language skills. In my experience, knowledge of a speecific
programming language or specific tool is probably the least important
skill in a project of any size.

-- 
Ole-Hj. Kristensen

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-06  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-02  0:36 employment with ada tom
2003-05-02  0:41 ` Ed Falis
2003-05-02  8:51 ` John McCabe
2003-05-02 12:08 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-02 20:54 ` Bill Sheehan
2003-05-03  3:23   ` R. Srinivasan
2003-05-03  4:13     ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-03  5:03       ` anisimkov
2003-05-03  7:07         ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03  7:46           ` AG
2003-05-05  5:38             ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03 14:44         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 15:32       ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-05-05 11:47         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 14:37     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 16:03 ` DPH
2003-05-03 16:22   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-03 17:18     ` DPH
2003-05-03 20:30       ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-03 19:17   ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-03 20:35     ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-04 11:01       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-05  0:34       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05  2:28         ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-05  3:33           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 12:30           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-04 13:14     ` DPH
2003-05-05  1:20       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-07 12:20         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-08 18:20           ` tmoran
2003-05-09 11:45             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-09 13:11             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-09 17:13               ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-05  3:28       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 10:45         ` DPH
2003-05-05 12:47           ` Ed Falis
2003-05-05 20:19             ` DPH
2003-05-05 20:28               ` Ed Falis
2003-05-06 11:30                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-07 13:22                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-08 12:21                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:12       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-04 13:20     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:19       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-06 12:07         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 18:14     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-05  1:24       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05  1:27       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-10 20:29       ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11  3:32         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11  4:25           ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 16:43             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 23:04               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 15:29           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-11 17:14             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 19:24           ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-11 20:03             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-12  7:20               ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-04  0:25   ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-04  4:09     ` DPH
2003-05-04 19:37       ` P S Norby
2003-05-04  4:55   ` Steve
2003-05-04 12:55     ` DPH
2003-05-05  6:27     ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-04 12:57   ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 16:45     ` tmoran
2003-05-04 13:45   ` Alex Gibson
2003-05-05  4:07   ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 18:41   ` P S Norby
2003-05-05 20:26     ` DPH
2003-05-05 23:06       ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 23:20         ` DPH
2003-05-06  9:24       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen [this message]
2003-05-07  1:25         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-07 13:23           ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-07 16:36             ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-06  9:32       ` Preben Randhol
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-04  1:32 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-05-06 16:19 ` L. Siever
2003-05-07 13:35   ` Stephen Leake
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