* Re: creating folders and sub folders [not found] <7te0hb$62h$1@minus.oleane.net> @ 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Nick Roberts @ 1999-10-12 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Sybs ALHABSHI wrote: > ... > can anyone indicate how I may create a folder I have replied to Sybs' question by e-mail. This includes some code to create a simple interface to three of the Win32 directory functions (GNAT/win32ada); if anyone is interested in same, let me know. May I politely ask, why did no-one else respond to this question? Brief replies please. -- Nick Roberts Computer Consultant (UK) http://www.callnetuk.com/home/nickroberts http://www.adapower.com/lab/adaos ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-12 0:00 ` creating folders and sub folders Nick Roberts @ 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1999-10-13 0:00 ` David Botton ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Dennison @ 1999-10-12 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <38029F67.66CC39FF@callnetuk.com>, Nick Roberts <nickroberts@callnetuk.com> wrote: > Sybs ALHABSHI wrote: > > ... > > can anyone indicate how I may create a folder > May I politely ask, why did no-one else respond to this question? Brief > replies please. I've answered this question twice already in the last few months. Sybs apparently didn't bother to search deja for a previous asking of his question. That should always be your first recourse if you are new to a newsgroup. If the our FAQ existed and the answer to this were in it (which it certianly *would* be), that might have helped as well. Right David? :-) -- T.E.D. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison @ 1999-10-13 0:00 ` David Botton 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Mike Silva 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 1999-10-13 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) On 10/12/99, 9:54:22 AM, Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> wrote regarding Re: creating folders and sub folders: > If the our FAQ existed and the answer to this were in it (which it > certianly *would* be), that might have helped as well. Right David? :-) It will, it will...... My plate is packed with getting things done (both Ada and non-Ada) before SigAda. I should get a draft up not long after that. Want to take a crack at the some Q&A for the FAQ? I have setup The Ada FAQ Project in the lab on AdaPower at: http://www.adapower.com/lab/adafaq.html Just submit, comment, and talk there. If passing along some one else's Q&A please give me there e-mail address, I have tried to maintain a strict policy on AdaPower of siting contributors and only posting with permission and will do this for the FAQ also. The FAQ will be released under the same style GPL terms as the Linux Documentation Project manuals. It is my hopes that every one gets involved in adding to the FAQ and when needed requesting things be removed or changed. You can join the project for e-mail updates by submitting your e-mail address on the chat page. I will try and get a first draft up after SigAda'99. David Botton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1999-10-13 0:00 ` David Botton @ 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Mike Silva 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Sybs ALHABSHI @ 1999-10-14 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 272 bytes --] Sybs > apparently didn't bother to search deja for a previous asking of his > question. That is not true. The truth is I'm new to news groups. I don't know what d�j� is. What is deja ? I've seen that words a few times and I thought that's a search engine. Sybs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI @ 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Dennison @ 1999-10-14 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 770 bytes --] In article <7u4oko$nqv$1@minus.oleane.net>, "Sybs ALHABSHI" <sybs@htsavoie.com> wrote: > Sybs > > apparently didn't bother to search deja for a previous asking of his > > question. > > That is not true. The truth is I'm new to news groups. I don't know > what d�j� is. What is deja ? I've seen that words a few times and I > thought that's a search engine. Sort of. Deja has archived all of Usenet for about the last 5 years. Unless you've got a really weird question, it has probably been asked before. So generally your first recourse when you have a question to pose to *any* newsgroup should be to search deja's archive of the newsgroup to see if your question has been answered already. -- T.E.D. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Ted Dennison @ 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Marin David Condic 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Vladimir Olensky @ 1999-10-15 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2147 bytes --] Ted Dennison wrote in message <7u555v$v9a$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... >In article <7u4oko$nqv$1@minus.oleane.net>, > "Sybs ALHABSHI" <sybs@htsavoie.com> wrote: >> Sybs >> > apparently didn't bother to search deja for a previous asking of his ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! >> > question. >> >> That is not true. The truth is I'm new to news groups. I don't know >> what d�j� is. What is deja ? I've seen that words a few times and I >> thought that's a search engine. > >Sort of. Deja has archived all of Usenet for about the last 5 years. >Unless you've got a really weird question, it has probably been asked >before. So generally your first recourse when you have a question >to pose to *any* newsgroup should be to search deja's archive of the >newsgroup to see if your question has been answered already. ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think that the best search engine is the human mind. If someone in the news group already knows/remembers the answer and it does not take more than few minutes to give the answer why not to do so. If giving the answer would take more than just few minutes one might just give the hint where to search (archive, time period, topic name, some keywords, author name). The word community implies sort of attitude to each other. But if is there is no desire or time to give the answer it is better not to bother to spend time for that. Many times I noticed that occasionally people spend much more time and efforts explaining and reasoning why they won't give the answer or explaining what one should do before asking that question though giving direct answer or hint would take twice (or even more) less time. The only valid reason for irritation is when the SAME person asks the SAME question more times than addressed person tolerance threshold which is different for different people (from 0 to infinity:-). People with tolerance threshould = 0 should not try to answer at all :-) I think that when FAQs page will be alive again and cross-referenced from different sites it would reduce the number of already answered questions. Regards, Vladimir Olensky. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky @ 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Marin David Condic 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Marin David Condic @ 1999-10-14 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Vladimir Olensky wrote: > better not to bother to spend time for that. Many times > I noticed that occasionally people spend much more time > and efforts explaining and reasoning why they won't give > the answer or explaining what one should do before asking > that question though giving direct answer or hint would > take twice (or even more) less time. > Maybe the most polite approach should be "The short answer is XXX and you can find a detailed answer by looking at YYY" where YYY isn't too general. (A specific URL, the title/author of a book, or some reasonably detailed guide as to how to get there.) Its easy for all of us who have been around for a while to take for granted a certain body of experience. And if we hang around this newsgroup enough, its easy for us to remember the thousands of times the same questions came up. I suppose every high school teacher gets tired of the same dumb questions every school year too. We can get a new crop of "students" every day. :-) > > The only valid reason for irritation is when the SAME person > asks the SAME question more times than addressed person > tolerance threshold which is different for different people > (from 0 to infinity:-). I know I have lots of patience for the merely ignorant and even the lazy (smart?) who might find it easier to ask than to dig for the answer themselves. (I recall a study that indicated engineers received 75% of their information from talking to each other on the job rather than looking in books or any other sources.) I'd have to admit to having my patience go asymptotic towards zero when confronted with someone who makes the same mistake repeatedly - or wants to cheat on school projects. > > People with tolerance threshould = 0 should not try > to answer at all :-) > Wise advice. But we all occasionally like to play the role of Newsgroup Police. Maybe its the flashy uniforms and nightsticks. :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Real Time & Embedded Systems, Propulsion Systems Analysis United Technologies, Pratt & Whitney, Large Military Engines M/S 731-95, P.O.B. 109600, West Palm Beach, FL, 33410-9600 ***To reply, remove "bogon" from the domain name.*** Visit my web page at: http://www.mcondic.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Marin David Condic @ 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Sybs ALHABSHI @ 1999-10-15 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, Are you all congratulating me for being the first bloke to have asked a questioned already raised in this group ? People who master such an elegant language as Ada should perhaps find an elegant manner to deal with this problem, if this is a problem and if there is indeed an eternal way in dealing with the problem. The best way to cope with a question already answsred, as far as I am concered, is to it. It takes you ten seconds to open the message, decide to reply or to not, and get on with your life. When I didn't get any reply in the begining, I thought I've raised a problem ada programmers can't handle. Luckily Nick replied to save my confidence in this group. Can't a question already answered a year back find new answers today ? If Ada programmers are incapable of imagination and progress, then maybe it's worthwhile that this community work on a program that scans a message for already answered questions, generate a robotic reply and block it from being published. Shall we now waste more time to meditate on the question "To answer or not to answer". Will newcomers be invited to meditate on the question "To ask or not to ask." prior to requesting for some good advise ? Isn't that now the question ? If every ada programmer use the same words to explain the same concepts in answering the same questions then I fear for the future of Ada. But we are not robots are we ? We are humain being with a spiritual dimension, and Ada is merely a tool. So how else do you propose to promote an elegant spirit in this community that matches the elegance of your language if you start cursing a newcomer for asking a question already raised ? Telling me it's already raised and pointing to where I can get the answers is good. Mailing me a sample of code for analysis is better. Giving YOUR point of view is excellent, because that's what I'm looking for. I suppose this community is wealthy in knowledge. Some of you are excellent programmers, others are excellent teachers and I won't expect all these qualities to fit in everyone in this community or this is heaven. I'm sorry if my questions irritate you. You now know my name. You can avoid all my future messages. But I'm still sorrier for the impression it may give to other newcomers who hope to find in this newsgroup a wide array of approaches in dealing with a problem. If I grant that cursing is one approach, will you agree that it's not the best ? Sybs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI @ 1999-10-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Dennison @ 1999-10-15 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7u7acg$2f3$1@minus.oleane.net>, "Sybs ALHABSHI" <sybs@htsavoie.com> wrote: > Are you all congratulating me for being the first bloke to have > asked a questioned already raised in this group ? People who master > such an elegant language as Ada should perhaps find an elegant manner > to deal with this problem, if this is a problem and if there is indeed > an eternal way in dealing with the problem. The best way to cope with The typcial usenet way of dealing with this situation is to put the frequently asked question in a Frequently Asked Question list (FAQ), then just point the requestor to the FAQ. The problem is that our FAQ maintainer put an exclusive copyright to himself on the FAQ, then quit maintaining it. This issue is now being worked. But in the meantime we have the current unfortunate situation where someone who asks a FAQ is liable to either get exasperated answers or, if everyone is feeling especially civil, no answer at all. Anyway the "problem" is hopefully a temporary one. In the meantime new readers here should run their questions through the deja search engine (at http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml ). This is actually better than a FAQ, but also a fair bit more work. -- T.E.D. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: creating folders and sub folders 1999-10-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1999-10-13 0:00 ` David Botton 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Sybs ALHABSHI @ 1999-10-14 0:00 ` Mike Silva 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Mike Silva @ 1999-10-14 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hmmm... I did a search (all messages) on creat* folder*, and also on Dennison folder*, and didn't find anything except this thread. Mike Ted Dennison wrote in message <7tvei6$oke$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... > >I've answered this question twice already in the last few months. Sybs >apparently didn't bother to search deja for a previous asking of his >question. That should always be your first recourse if you are new to a >newsgroup. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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