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From: Richard D Riehle <laoXhai@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.
Date: 1999/09/28
Date: 1999-09-28T15:16:14-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7sr7me$11v@dfw-ixnews19.ix.netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7sqi8p$7pu1@news.cis.okstate.edu

In article <7sqi8p$7pu1@news.cis.okstate.edu>,
	dvdeug@x8b4e53cd. (David Starner) wrote:

>It's not a big thing. Occasionally you have to fit a program in a small
>space, like on a boot floppy. And it doesn't look good to have a small
>game - which could probably fit in under 4k with a brilliant enough
programmer
>- to be 3/4 of a megabyte. 

1) Ada is not at its best when designing code for little programs.
   It is definitely advantageous when creating large-scale software
   that involves a team of programmers.   C++, used correctly, also
   fits into that category.

2) Most Ada compilers create a program that includes a set of 
   instructions that act as a "run time environment."  The RTE
   supports a lot of execution time checking that is not typical
   of languages without an RTE.  You can optimize away a lot of]
   this code.

3) GNAT has a version called GNORT which has no RTE. This will
   produce smaller code, but then you must include all the checking
   through selection operations within your code.  Sometimes this
   is a good idea.  Sometimes it is not.

4) Toy programs are never an acceptable medium for measuring or 
   comparing programming languages or even development methods. If
   you decide to create a small program using object-oriented 
   programming, I will build it just as fast and just as well using
   ad hoc methods.  However, if we scale up the problem to a serious
   application, you will win in both understandability, maintainability,
   and completion of the job.  I, however, will win the prize for
   consumption of over-the-counter anodyne products.

Richard Riehle
http://www.adaworks.com
 




  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-27  0:00 Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses the middleman
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-09-27  0:00   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00         ` bill
1999-09-27  0:00           ` Aidan Skinner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-27  0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Code size of Ada ? was " Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00               ` Ed Falis
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` tmoran
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-09-30  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                       ` <7t2e1l$lqt2@ftp.kvaerner.com>
     [not found]                         ` <37F91D6E.58685CFE@mitre.org>
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo$h2b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
     [not found]                             ` <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
1999-10-18  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-19  0:00                                 ` Code size of Ada ? Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
     [not found]                             ` <5OkO3.2$1e.659@typhoon.nyu.edu>
1999-10-19  0:00                               ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00             ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00     ` GNAT listing file default names (was: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses) Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00         ` Pragma (was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.) Preben Randhol
1999-09-30  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Ted Dennison
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00           ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` p.obry
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle [this message]
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ray Blaak
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-27  0:00 ` J. David Bryan
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-29  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-29  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
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