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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada DB bindings and APQ
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:20:33 +0100
Date: 2004-12-15T18:20:33+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7snhquz82u0x.1vyp974fukzuc.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cpnklg$sng$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:06:56 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:29:16 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>: 
>:> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>:>: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:25:22 -0500, Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote:
>:>: Yep, the first error one gets: lpq not found. libpq.a is not distributed
>:>: with GNAT. This might become a problem in the future.
>:> 
>:> I'm not at all surprised that when I use a binding but not the bound
>:> thing, I'll get an error.
>: 
>: Does your OS complain about all devices you could potentially attach via
>: USB?
> 
> It is surprising if binding to the operating system fails.
> Driver not installed?

APQ <-> USB
PosgreSQL <-> Mouse
MySQL <-> USB Stick

>:>: Yes, but from user's perspective, at least one query per connection is
>:>: always necessary. In some cases the user will need more, but not so often.
>:> 
>:> I doubt this very much. Indeed, we have a server type application
>:> that does not work at all without a connection pool, because performance
>:> is affected rather drastically when you control connections.
>: 
>: OK, but this does not contradict my point.
> 
> When you said, "but not so often," and I said, "doubt this very much",
> (then gave just one example) I wanted to say that many DBes typically
> _are_ queried frequently, in Hz.

OK, but how this might disprove that each connection needs at least one
query?

> But then at the end of your post you write that you envision a distributed
> application that stores data in the net. Is this the point from wich
> you argue? Quoting Warren, "You seem to be at cross purposes," maybe?

The point is that separation of queries and connections in API is
superfluous.

> Have you had a chance to study Tanenbaum's et aliorum distributed systems
> reasearch (Amoeba, The Globe, ...)?

I know Andy's works.

> There should be plenty of information, including a language study
> comparing Ada's protected objects and Orca's shared data objects
> in distributed systems.
> 
> http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/papers/[orca/]

As I said before, that is a very long term perspective. When distributed
systems finally come, they will eliminate the very notion of data base.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-15 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-12 17:42 Ada DB bindings and APQ Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-14  7:25 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-14 17:37   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-14 18:29     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-14 19:45       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-14 21:06         ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-15  8:19           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2004-12-15 17:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2004-12-16 13:28             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-17 13:23               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-14 23:26         ` Brian May
2004-12-15 17:43           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-15 21:54             ` Brian May
2004-12-15  4:05     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-15 18:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-16  2:53         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-18 16:43           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-18 20:36             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-18 22:21               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-19  0:53                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-19 12:21                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-20  5:33                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-20 20:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-20 20:54                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-14 22:40   ` Brian May
2004-12-15  3:23     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-15 15:01       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-17  4:31         ` Brian May
2004-12-15 10:48   ` Brian May
2004-12-16  1:40     ` Brian May
2004-12-16  3:10       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-12-17  4:55         ` Brian May
2004-12-17 11:13           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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