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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Kindness
Date: 1999/09/03
Date: 1999-09-03T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7qood6$h3f$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au

In article <37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au>,
  Geoff Bull <gbull@acenet.com.au> wrote:
> I think you're all being a bit precious.
> Getting some help via the net is just another part of
> the educational experience.

Getting help is one thing, asking the net to do your homework
or copying your homework from the net is quite another (we had
several students at NYU last semester who got into severe
trouble doing this, and that seems quite appropriate to me).

There is a big difference between:

"has anyone got a program that solves the 8-queens problem
 with graphical output to the screen".

and

"I have to do an 8-queens program with graphical output to
the screen for a homework assignment. Can anyone point me in
the right direction for a simple graphics package usable from
Ada that would be appropriate to this problem?"

The former is unacceptable. The latter message is a constructive
attempt to learn the best way of solving the assignment, and is
indeed entirely appropriate. Furthermore, I can think of many
occasions on which questions of the second type posted here
have elicited useful answers!

Anyone who thinks that concern over students cheating and not
doing the work they need to do learn is "precious" is missing
a pretty important point!

Robert Dewar
Professor of Computer Science
New York University

(my academic affiliation seems more appropriate for this
particular post :-)



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  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-08-31  0:00 Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00   ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-09-03  0:00       ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-06  0:00           ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-06  0:00             ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00             ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-07  0:00               ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-04  0:00           ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-06  0:00       ` Kindness Geoff Bull
1999-09-05  0:00         ` Kindness Aidan Skinner
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00       ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness tmoran
1999-09-03  0:00           ` Kindness Marin David Condic
1999-09-03  0:00         ` Kindness Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-04  0:00           ` Eight Queens problem (was Re: Kindness) Daryle Walker
1999-09-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-14  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-06  0:00             ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-09-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00                 ` bourguet
1999-09-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08  0:00                     ` bourguet
1999-09-08  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-08  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
     [not found]         ` <37D55622.69B27515@rational.com>
1999-09-07  0:00           ` Homework " Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-08  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-08  0:00           ` Homework Mark Lundquist
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-03  0:00   ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-03  0:00     ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-05  0:00       ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-07  0:00         ` Kindness Andy Askey
1999-09-07  0:00           ` Kindness Bill Findlay
1999-09-02  0:00 ` Kindness Jerry Petrey
1999-09-02  0:00   ` Kindness Nick Roberts
1999-09-03  0:00 ` Kindness Matthew Heaney
1999-09-09  0:00   ` Kindness James William Zuercher
1999-09-10  0:00     ` Kindness Mark Lundquist
1999-09-10  0:00       ` Kindness Robert Dewar
1999-09-10  0:00     ` Kindness Robert Dewar
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