Re: where can we get a job with ada

[xanthian@well.com (Kent Paul Dolan)]

Gareth <groth@chariot.net.au> wrote:

>>*envious sigh* And they all require US citizenship... Personally I'd love to 
>>work with Ada when I graduate, but realistically my only hope is to find a 
>>non-military site. Does anyone care to comment on the state of the civillian 
>>Ada job market? I know that Ada is (rightfully, IMAO) touted as the language 
>>of choice for ATC, avionics, industrial control etc., but are many employers 
>>in such commercial domains actually using it? Or should I just accept my 
>>inevitable assimilation into the C++ collective?

Ada is used by military establishments all over the world, not just in the US.
On both the military and civilain sides, Michael Feldman's labor of love, "Who's
Using Ada":

http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html

should bring hope to the heart of any Ada programmer wannabe.  Keeping
automated trains from colliding is every bit as "mission critical" as
keeping fighter aircraft clear on who is friend and who is foe during
the confusion of combat.

>>Thanks...
>>Simon

>>Simon Brady                        simon.brady@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
>

>Ahh.... I see you're from New Zealand.

>Don't you have a defense department that programs in Ada? I know that
>the Australian defense industries do - and there's a local air force
>base about twenty minutes away from my house, and the programmers
>there use Ada extensively.

>However, Australia doesn't work with the *exciting* stuff, like
>stealth aircraft, space shuttles and so on (just submarines that don't
>work).... and that's the kind of thing I'd like to do.

That over the horizon radar I read about a few years ago sounded right
up there, and by now the stuff you mentioned is probably a lot running
on legacy code.  Why don't you look a little harder before leaping.  I
live in the US, and have nothing against it, much for it, and your
chances of ending up unbearably rich are rumored to be high in my
immediate neighborhood (the sort of thing that happens to _other_
people), but our resident Aussie just returned home by choice.  You
might not find what you expected when you get here, and it is always
hard to live with the shock of things like our chaotic and expensive
medical system when you expect such things to be accomplished much more
sensibly from prior experience at home.  He missed family, Australian
Rules Football, people who could intelligently discuss ARF, a modestly
less confiscatory tax system, cricket, people who didn't consider
cricket some bizarre UK eccentricity, reasonable land prices, robust,
intelligent, level headed women who didn't think he spoke with an
accent, and lots else I'm sure that he didn't bother to share.

>I fully intend to move to the US and obtain citizenship there when I
>finish early next year.

Ok, but you were warned.

>- Gareth

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