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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: How many different processors do you use?
Date: 1999/06/28
Date: 1999-06-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7l6l9k$45u$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 19990626.7A2D4E8.143E4@mojaveg.ridgecrest.ca.us

In article <19990626.7A2D4E8.143E4@mojaveg.ridgecrest.ca.us>,
  mojaveg@ridgecrest.ca.us (Everett M. Greene) wrote:
> In the case of Ada, DoD made a
> flat statement that their definition was the standard.
> Consensus existed by decree.

Complete nonsense. Obviously you were not involved in the
process, and are making uninformed guesses that do not
have even a vague relationship with reality!

In fact both Ada 83 and Ada 95 were very much consensus
operations, although some would say that Jean Ichbiah
and Tucker Taft had the ultimate say in many critical
areas. Certainly the DoD did not dictate the definition,
and could not have done so (even if it had wanted to,
which it most emphatically did NOT want to). And as for
the idea that the ISO WG9 committee is somehow subject
to DoD decrees that's good for a real laugh.

One thing that the DoD *did* emphatically want was that Ada
would become both a national and international standard. They
realized up front (unlike Sun) that this meant that the final
shape of the language would have to be determined by national
and international consensus and they welcomed this process.

I am always amazed by the amount of nonsense attempts there
are to rewrite history by people who were not around and
simply don't know what happened!

None of this is secret, it was a very open process, much has
been written about it, and many of the participants in
comp.lang.ada at least *were* around and know perfectly well
what really happened :-)

Robert Dewar


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1999-06-08  0:00         ` How many different processors do you use? muddy_buddy
1999-06-08  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00             ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-06-10  0:00                         ` Robert B. Love 
1999-06-11  0:00                           ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` rawcswi
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` rawcswi
1999-06-20  0:00                       ` Eric Roesinger
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?) David Kristola
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Jerry Petrey
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Jim Prince
1999-06-12  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Elizabeth D Rather
1999-06-09  0:00           ` How many different processors do you use? Matt Cox
1999-06-09  0:00           ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` dennison
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ada95 (was: How many different processors do you use?) Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` How many different processors do you use? Ed Avis
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00               ` John Kodis
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` martin lytz
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Fraser Wilson
     [not found]                     ` <7jpb1e$ic8$1@remarq.com>
1999-06-11  0:00                       ` fraser
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-11  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Greg Martin
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                 ` Dave Hansen
1999-06-11  0:00                   ` martin lytz
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Roger Espel Llima
1999-06-12  0:00               ` markh
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                   ` markh
1999-06-25  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-25  0:00                       ` Lew Pitcher
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-29  0:00                               ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-29  0:00                                 ` Richard Kettlewell
1999-06-30  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-07-08  0:00                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-07-09  0:00                                       ` no-one
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Dan Nagle
1999-06-12  0:00               ` mjsilva
1999-06-14  0:00                 ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-26  0:00                     ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar [this message]
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